I'm unconvinced - and anyway it isn't working, as global population continues to rise... and life expectancy is rising almost everywhere except Russia....
The 'pandemic ' was a flop, and so was the response to it. Neither of them made a significant noticeable dent in overall population terms.
Plus Western populations are shrinking anyway through lower fertility rates, and thats a long term trend.
By ours I mean the general US population and it isn't a grandiose statement. It's actually a fact! I didn't take the hokey pokey either so get off your high horse why don't you.
Isn't there analysis of expected fall in the populations of most countries ( even China ) due to falling birthrates? ( aside from the current depopulation discussion )
Yes. I mean on current trends, and assuming no interventions, most developed countries like China and Italy will shrink by 25% - over the next 50 to 100 years. Places like Nigeria are still growing. It is quite unprecedented.
Japan and China are already on special measures: both of them hate immigration, have growing pensioner populations, and know their economies and countries are aging rapidly. My guess is that both will have to start incentivising children financially or go under.
Nigeria is heading for starvation or mass emigration: they might survive if they can pull off an an economic miracle - my guess is they are facing huge political change. They simply cannot feed their people.
Russia is just so horrible that the people are drinking themselves to death, or fleeing abroad.
I could see Russia stabilising its population in the medium term ( century), but that's another one.
The natural course of events would have the population shrinking as per the complex inputs, to a point, and then rebound.
The post European plague type scenario, labour / crafts / etc are scarce, this creates a new age.
'We' seem determined to interfere in every natural system left to us, there is an increasing appetite to micro-manage the planet. It's a little difficult to determine whether this is choice or an emergent property from our very nature !
We have 193 trillion...yes trillion, in unfunded liabilities. And this is for the US alone! The house of cards will tumble soon and it's best to have as little resistance remaining on the planet when it does.
We won't be here. We'll all be gone. Dead. Kaput. What happened to all the horses at the end of the last industrial revolution? They did not continue. We are those horses. We will not endure. We are redundant. We are only here now by dint of the fact that we have been useful up until now. In the same way as the industrial combustion engine did it for the horses of the early 20th century, AI will do the same for us. We are the 'useless eaters'.
Still plenty of jobs for security peeps, cooks, mechanics, housebuilders, road repair men, care-givers, cleaners and drivers... but the Middle classes always find new technology to keep them busy... or just labour away in made-up government and charity jobs,
I think the aim was to reduce life expectancy.
They can't afford pensions or medical care for the old and infirm so needed to dispose of them.
it's likely
I'm unconvinced - and anyway it isn't working, as global population continues to rise... and life expectancy is rising almost everywhere except Russia....
The 'pandemic ' was a flop, and so was the response to it. Neither of them made a significant noticeable dent in overall population terms.
Plus Western populations are shrinking anyway through lower fertility rates, and thats a long term trend.
Wrong....our life expectancy dropped by three years recently! So thereтАЩs that!
Maybe yours did: mine did not. I didn't take the silly vaxx. Thats the problem with such grandiose statements, isn't it?
By ours I mean the general US population and it isn't a grandiose statement. It's actually a fact! I didn't take the hokey pokey either so get off your high horse why don't you.
I come from Scotland, not the USA. Our heraldic beast is not a pony, it is a unicorn.
Isn't there analysis of expected fall in the populations of most countries ( even China ) due to falling birthrates? ( aside from the current depopulation discussion )
Yes. I mean on current trends, and assuming no interventions, most developed countries like China and Italy will shrink by 25% - over the next 50 to 100 years. Places like Nigeria are still growing. It is quite unprecedented.
So net numbers wise does this have anything to say about a depop agenda.
I mean if numbers are trending down for other ( assuming not coerced ) reasons, this is some evidence against said.
Edit: Scrap that, 75 years-ish obviously could be too long depending.
Japan and China are already on special measures: both of them hate immigration, have growing pensioner populations, and know their economies and countries are aging rapidly. My guess is that both will have to start incentivising children financially or go under.
Nigeria is heading for starvation or mass emigration: they might survive if they can pull off an an economic miracle - my guess is they are facing huge political change. They simply cannot feed their people.
Russia is just so horrible that the people are drinking themselves to death, or fleeing abroad.
I could see Russia stabilising its population in the medium term ( century), but that's another one.
The natural course of events would have the population shrinking as per the complex inputs, to a point, and then rebound.
The post European plague type scenario, labour / crafts / etc are scarce, this creates a new age.
'We' seem determined to interfere in every natural system left to us, there is an increasing appetite to micro-manage the planet. It's a little difficult to determine whether this is choice or an emergent property from our very nature !
This is where we are now...https://www.usdebtclock.org/
We have 193 trillion...yes trillion, in unfunded liabilities. And this is for the US alone! The house of cards will tumble soon and it's best to have as little resistance remaining on the planet when it does.
I guess it depends on many other factors: you can wipe out much of that debt in 20 years with 5% compound inflation.
They estimate 90% of all jobs will be replaced by AI within 20 years . What do we do with that workforce for the next 50 years .
We won't be here. We'll all be gone. Dead. Kaput. What happened to all the horses at the end of the last industrial revolution? They did not continue. We are those horses. We will not endure. We are redundant. We are only here now by dint of the fact that we have been useful up until now. In the same way as the industrial combustion engine did it for the horses of the early 20th century, AI will do the same for us. We are the 'useless eaters'.
I still have faith in mankind . We will be around but in smaller numbers
Still plenty of jobs for security peeps, cooks, mechanics, housebuilders, road repair men, care-givers, cleaners and drivers... but the Middle classes always find new technology to keep them busy... or just labour away in made-up government and charity jobs,
and there's this... https://www.theverge.com/features/23764584/ai-artificial-intelligence-data-notation-labor-scale-surge-remotasks-openai-chatbots?utm_source=pocket_reader
Cause they spent all our money or should I say wasted it?? Pay closer attention people. What you see will horrify you!
It was not real money if they simply printed it.
Definitely. Look up Martin Armstrong economist- he outlines this and other events perfectly.