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I find this refreshing and insightful, Jessica. I also really appreciate you breaking a trend and choosing not to go after anybody directly, instead offering a framework through which to think about these important questions as we all try to navigate. Will meditate on your words!

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Aug 29, 2023·edited Aug 29, 2023Author

Wonderful! And yeah, that's not my style.

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Jessica, I cannot tell you how deeply this spoke to me after my own recent experience of discovering someone I thought was a friend has been conducting a whisper campaign against me for months, first accusing me of being a “spy” and then escalating to a “[malevolent entity]” (changed the latter to obscure her identity as she wrote a passive-aggressive post under the original term).

Fortunately, two of the people she attempted to poison against me (Mickey Z. and Alicen Grey) agreed to go public with evidence of her malicious behavior in the following post:

• “How to Be an Upstander” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/how-to-be-an-upstander)

Our intention was not to vilify this person, hence our decision to avoid naming her, but rather to highlight a real-life example of what it means to be an upstander in a situation where someone is attempting to harm another person. Mickey and Alicen demonstrated courageous integrity in not only standing up for me but also in calling out my saboteur’s behavior with both radical honesty and surprising compassion.

This journey led me to learn more about Cluster B personality types and narcissists, and it became clear this person has histrionic personality disorder in addition to paranoid delusions. This has led to philosophical contemplations about a person’s culpability for their actions when mental illness is involved, with it becoming increasingly clear that narcissists suffer from a character disorder rather than mental illness and thus are responsible for their actions.

Several people recommended the book “In Sheep’s Clothing,” and I have found that incredibly illuminating, particularly in regards to the covert aggressors the author describes as it captures her behavior precisely.

Now that I have a better sense of the red flags to watch out for, I feel I am better-equipped to identify potential narcissistic abusers in the future, and yet I refuse to close my heart when encountering new people. The deep friendships I have formed with authentic kindreds far outweigh this one negative experience and are worth the blip of suffering I endured in the face of her betrayal and attempted sabotage.

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The APAs have the Cluster Bs hidden in the back of their DSM for a reason. First, they've given it an innocuous name as if it's barely worth mentioning so you assume it's some rare and exotic thing. (It's as high as one in ten in the US, so definitely not rare.) Then, the classification of disorders (Narcissistic Personality Disorder, etc.) aren't scientifically or even logically well thought-out, which is true of most of the entire DSM. So people tilt their head sideways and squint to make someone fit in one of their categories, but it doesn't work because their categories aren't based on science or research, just guesswork.

The APAs' (there are two: Psychology, Psychiatry) two main customers are the security state and pharma, and the last thing they want us to figure out is how the mind of sociopaths work. In fact, their job is protect sociopaths at all costs, because they are covering for themselves and especially the deep state, who use sociopathic tricks on us all day long to manipulate, "nudge" and cause fear-based compliance. As a result, except for Robert Hare's stand-alone Psychopathy Test (PCL-R), you're kind of on your own dealing with sociopaths because except for those few incomplete, scant pages in the DSM, there's very little formal works in this area of psychology. There's books and videos on TY, but it's based on individual opinion and observation rather than some expert body of knowledge.

This site has many articles and videos/documentaries on the fraudulent, sold-out mess that modern psychology is today. https://www.cchr.org/

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This gave me chills because it echoes what Meredith Miller was saying in our Dissident Dialogue interview:

“The institution of psychology has normalized, delegitimized, avoided, or erased the most relevant topics to the real cause of the pandemic—namely psychopathy, covert narcissism, and the Stockholm Syndrome.

“The institution of allopathic medicine is rotten to the core, poisoned with Big Pharma’s agenda from the medical school textbooks all the way to the prescribed bedside manner with patients. It was the ideal environment for COVID tyranny to spread.

“Most of the doctors, psychologists, and psychiatrists went into the New Normal cult. These are the very people in society who ought to have been leading the way against the violations of informed consent by State and corporate actors. Instead, they enabled the abuse.” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/dissident-dialogues-meredith-miller-228 – I’ll be publishing the full version for the public if I can ever find time to finish it!)

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Another area in which psychologists are enabling abuse is gender identity. Many are advising minors and their parents to proceed with gender transformation without first delving into the other psychological problems that almost always underlie the child's problems. Some spread the myth that a parent's failure to affirm a child's new identity puts that child at high risk of suicide. Psychologists are also incorrectly stating that gender blockers and hormone therapies are reversible. They are not!

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💯 They have become enablers of destructive delusions and are culpable for the permanent damage they are inflicting on these poor, confused children.

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Aug 31, 2023·edited Aug 31, 2023

Margaret, et Al,

Worth noting that the normalization of this dark behavior coming from the narcissists, psychopaths, and sociopaths, etc. manifests as

they see everyone as “just like them” and thus believe their behavior/thinking is therefore “normal”.

It’s gotten even more dangerous for everyone as the APA(s) are normalizing this truly sick human behavior.

Another medical faction that may have to crash and start over. Can’t happen too soon.

PS: Another shout out to Jessica. What an amazing human being.

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So true, Walking the Dog. The projection is off the charts in this case and was the first thing a friend who specializes in recovery from narcissistic abuse noticed about her accusations.

One thing I learned from this experience is that I was also guilty of projection as it was my baseline assumption that she was operating from the same desires to help humanity and resist tyranny that led me to believe she was sincere.

I am now listening to another book that was recommended to me called “5 Types of People Who Can Ruin Your Life,” and I believe the author says 90% of people are decent, so you just have to look out for the red flags characteristic of the 10% who comprise narcissists, psycho/sociopaths, and other high-conflict personalities.

And a big YES to Jessica being an amazing human being. She is goodness down to the bone. There are a handful of people whose integrity I would stake my life on—Tess Lawrie, Mike Yeadon, Pierre Kory, and Jessica are at the top of that list.

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Thanks very much for the useful link! Mainstream media likes to repeat the refrain of how many artists—especially in popular music—died of drug overdoses, but seldom mention that most of them died from "legitimate" pharmaceutical drugs, sometimes combined with alcohol, society's other legitimate drug. Keith Moon, John Bonham, Michael Hutchence (antidepressants), and that's just off the top of my head. A terrible travesty.

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You nailed it, Cathy, and thank you for reminding me of Peck’s book. That’s been on my list for ages, so I’ll bump it up in the queue before I forget again.

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Aug 29, 2023Liked by Jessica Rose

50+ years ago I had an 8th grade English teacher we called " blue haired Miss Jones". We thought she was hopelessly old and fuddy duddy and out of touch. But in all fairness she rigorously taught us English at every level, grammar, sentence structure, spelling, clarity, having a main point and crammed as many great novels into our heads as possible. By about the 3rd month into the school started, we giggled that she was constantly using the phrase when we had to describe the theme of a book as " Man's inhumanity to man"... We thought she was ridiculous. But I quickly learned to incorporate that sentence into every paper I had to hand then and I got very good grades. It took me about 50 years to realize that "blue-haired Miss Jones" was on to something! "Man's inhumanity to man" has been around since day one and is very much alive and well now. Our challenge as you say: determine which are vipers, blatant or sneaky. Thank you "blue-haired Miss Jones" for clueing me in early. Thank you Jessica!

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Aug 29, 2023Liked by Jessica Rose

My high school history teacher had served in WW2 and seen a lot of evil crap. He told us repeatedly "You can't imagine what inhuman acts humans do to each other for no sane reason".

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Aug 29, 2023Liked by Jessica Rose

And it's all because a relatively small number of powerful psychopathic idiots playing "mine is bigger than yours" send other people's children off to fight and die in wars that are almost always nonsensical.

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If I may be so bold I would like to add another trait to your list of integrity, maturity and good judgement. That trait is empathy. Without it the other three lose their impact.

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My personal standard has always been: Until I've spent time researching a topic, I have no right to express an opinion on it. Unfortunately, this is by no means a common ethic, and it has been worsened by social media, which gives everyone a platform regardless of how nonsensical or bloviating their views may be. No matter how grievous a verbal attack, I also don't see it as productive to respond in kind. Another useful principle: Attack the problem, not the person.

Your essay is an important one in this time when ethics seems to have become a bygone quality except among the very few such as yourself. Sadly even the Freedom movement attracts snake oil salesmen and others who, even if they aren't subversive state agents, are there to line their own pockets or puff up their personal profiles, often both. I could name some—even doctors who told the truth about the injections but then used this as a platform to sell "remedies"—but I won't descend to the level of mudslinging. As always, the simple but highly useful Socratic question, "Who benefits?" is endlessly applicable.

You always give me a chuckle with your inventive word coinages, thanks! Great to inject humour into what is often a dark subject. New slogan: "Inject humour, not drugs. It's safe and effective!"

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noice!

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"New slogan: "Inject humour, not drugs. It's safe and effective!"

It's mine too. And Rob Schneider's.

https://twitter.com/RobSchneider

At least he hasn't lost all sense of it, throughout these Covidian years.

"They" are at it again, it is said. Coming to a theater near you and me, fall of '23.

The new BS 24-7 variant.

#DoNotComply

My own humor is so often lost on utterly humorless folks. (Or idjits. 😉)

Maybe I just need a tee shirt?

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Maybe better to find a place there are less of 'them.' You sound well grounded to me.

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This was an excellent breakdown on integrity, maturity and judgement, and I especially needed the reminder on integrity, thank you Jessica! One needs to keep an eye out for the Wuzzuuuups, the Blargenbargs and Fartenslacks.

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Aug 29, 2023Liked by Jessica Rose

"I want to help because I can."

And we, your readers, are eternally grateful. Thank you Jessica.

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Well said. I find narcissism and complacency to be the interfere in common sense and logic. Narcissists can always dump their behavior and attitudes on others..willingly .complacency. says ot all

I find you and all substack writers to be very honest with huge amounts of integrity and ethics

KEEP UP YOUR GREAT WORK!! You guys keep alot of us informed. Correctly. THANK YOU

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It's all a process.

Good judgment comes from experience.

Experience comes from bad judgment.

We're all just trying to get better.

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Aug 29, 2023Liked by Jessica Rose

Having a bit of experience in handling rattlesnakes, the trick is to grab them behind their head where they can't reach to bite you...

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nice! that sounds like an exciting job!

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It was never a job or hobby.

I was a member of the Brownwood (Texas) Jaycees who have been doing an annual rattlesnake roundup for most of a century. It is their major fundraiser for the year, funding projects like Christmas for Kids, where local businesses let Jaycees come in when they are closed to shop for the gifts that the parents of low-income children can't afford. One of them then dresses up as Santa and delivers the presents in person.

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An old coworker had a saying ,,never get in a spitting contest with a skunk

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Skunks don't need to spit.

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Brilliant as usual, Doc. “Intent” is a critical consideration for me. I decided decades ago that I would not take offense at someone’s words or actions unless I was convinced they intended to do harm. This is not the same as condoning incompetence or laziness-- I don’t condone either one, and they can be remedied-- but Intentional Harm is right up there with Ingratitude in my personal list of Cardinal Sins.

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wonderful

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4. The ability to question one's fundamental premises.

I suppose that falls under 'Good Judgement' but it really needs to be made explicit. I can't count the number of times I've attempted to engage so-called professionals that have never questioned their underlying assumptions, and when you do it for them you're inevitably met with dismissal or outright hostility. I'm at the point now where if see a collection of letters after your name, it suggests that you haven't really learned much at all.

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that connects to emotional maturity for me. the ability to be careful and intentional with your own emotions and decision-making processes - very important

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Hear hear!

And Amen.

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Aug 29, 2023Liked by Jessica Rose

Jessica,

You remain a voice of reason, ethically awash of sound mature judgement and character. I find your words comforting, and intelligent aligning with all that I hold dear and an answer to ponder for every question I ask myself on a daily basis. I am still clinging...haphazardly, to hope though, with the current ambience of questionable integrity and purpose of the clandestine actions of others; wondering when this will all come to a screeching halt? So many people say they are aware and can see the destruction and blatant lies, but what more can we do other than crookedly point out who the maligners are and ask for justice to prevail and show its happy sunshiny face to help us through this muck and mire?

I eagerly await all that you write and share on your substack so that I can keep my positive vibrations as high as possible. How do you possibly find the time to read as you do, and maintain a modicum of professional fortitude and calming breath? You never waiver, unless you keep that private. But thank you, for being you and willing to share your thoughts...

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Aug 29, 2023·edited Aug 29, 2023Liked by Jessica Rose

Another excellent read Dr. Jessica Rose your compassion shows through this post of yours it’s really hard to find and uncover who the players are in any given event and I always find that the perpetrators or the cause of any bad outcome is never discovers the light of day or defined as who or what really caused it reportedly, for the good people that did bad things my wife aways refer to them as the

“Not minded people”. But I also feel there is a lack of integrity and character among the people generally too many people do things because of their wants and needs not because what is right or wrong they don’t think what their actions would cause any pain or harm to the fellow person it’s their selfishness needs , to interpret someone’s actions is very hard indeed to know what their really true agenda is but when you connect the dots you can see what other people don’t bother see when they don’t connect the dots just like leading a horse to water can you make them drink , if it’s thirsty The creature comforts come first if it doesn’t affect their instant material pleasures they don’t bother to look into it , well until it’s too late and then it’s almost the end game when the antagonist have all the the rings of destruction The only one thing I would differ a little on a perfect essay is the word professionalism , know the intent meaning you use and I agree with that but our adversaries are professional in their discrete and deceit they do know what divides us they know what scares us they know how to manipulate us , in that realm of

occupation they are very professional

I think I can honestly say without a doubt all your readers including myself feel you have all the integrity and character and compassion and love intelligence you are the beacon of light of information that helps people like us understand what’s going on , you are amazing individual for all the work you do and care that you have thank you so much Dr. Jessica Rose 💕

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Interesting enough I was going through Facebook and the twilight zone episode came up the classical one “to serve man” Aliens comes to earth supposedly to help mankind left a book but we couldn’t decipher until it was to late but the Aliens promised the people they would stop disease ,war and famine and all of

the professionals, heads of states governments of the world got on board told the people go to the planet , can’t help but see the analogy of today’s COVID-19 vaccine promise , they told it works it protect us , stop the spread of the disease make your immune system stronger that last one’s a real joke

The Aliens hidden agenda was we useless eaters were only to be fattened up for food

You see the book they left was a cookbook on how to prepare humanity as food !

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Sorry my wife said not

“Being mindful” I have do a better job proof reading my posts

Either way my wife was so smart and intuitive I have learned so much from her over the past years trying to stay focus on what she would do if she was still here with us 💕

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Thanks for this message, Jessica. It is always good to be challenged and to stop and take an inward inventory. It is so easy in these days we live, to let anger and loathing to seep in, and make what we say very dishonorable. This is a good grid to sift ourselves and others through.

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Good post mate, don't be mistaken though those sociopaths don't feel. At least like humans do anyway.

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