My final comment would be this: I try really hard never to 'inject' my own beliefs onto others because inherently I know that it would always be impossible to successfully do that anyway. We all have entirely unique experiences and existences. I am not trying to argue one way or another on anything but that. My MO: Believe what you want, but don't try to force me to believe what you believe.
Totally agree with you now. Back in 2020, I did attempt to educate my family, friends, even acquaintances on the benefits of maintaining a healthy immune system. I failed miserably! I forgot that most people look for easy fixes.
In 2021, I asked them to just use common sense and a bit of critical thinking ( why trust an organization that has no liability for their product) ? Again, I failed!
“ you can take a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink”!
You cannot impose your beliefs even though they are logical. There are too many stupid people in the world who would embrace their ignorance and quite possibly as proof, wipe their derrieres with wet toilet paper. Yet these same would reject the reality of a CYSTem imposed fake jab presented as an "experimental vaccine" and suffer the consequences. The average IQ is dropping exponentially.
Meanwhile I love/cherish intelligent women and cannot nor do not care to suppress that tendency. It is a simple adoption of an essay decades ago in MC2 mag titled praise excellence by Isaac Isamov. From that point at 24 years of age I did so and will continue,. Lots of intelligent conservative gals here.
Hmmmmm. Brought up sex? Doubt it but you did and it is indeed strange. To enlarge, love is not sex. Cherishment is not sex. My closest friend for the last 29 years has been and is/was an abused woman who tore holes in my heart as I listened to her true story of what she had suffered. We have been close all that time and she was blunt one day after we became more comfie with each the other. She asked me if I knew why she cherished me and wanted me as her closest friend and did not wait for me to answer but said to me starring at me with her big brown eyes searching my soul that "I love you because you never tried to put your hands down the front of my pants like every other "male" had.
Sex? This is the most inner and outer beautiful girl in the world and after 29 years neither I nor her have tried to take liberties with the other. It is far stronger than a sexual relationship could ever be and while everything on me works, she trusts me totally and feels "protected" and safe when she is with me in abandoned ghost towns, old silver mines, and trails in the middle of nowhere and on mountain passes where there is nobody for miles.
She once told me "there is nobody like you Edward" and I asked her was that meant to be good or bad. I have met but one man in my whole life who understood the relationship she and I have as he is the only other man who has the same thing with a woman as well.
To interact beyond propriety would destroy the closeness she and I have and the closeness is far stronger and warmer than any sexual element could equate to. Love is not MADE in bed. Real love is made by interactive understanding, cherishing and respect. It is not physical but spiritual. She has women acquaintances who are jealous of what she has with me. I baby her in hopes of alleviating her pain and helping her forget the hurt she suffered from. I love that girl too much to ever think about desecrating her and her affection towards me in what women know as emotional intimacy is immense and intense.
Few know that and even fewer practice that. And for the record, there are now 8 women of all ages in my life who all wanted me to be their friend and most of them were abused and abandoned. It is truly a broken world filled with broken people. Many are women and they do not need nor want sex, they want understanding, cherishment and respect. And to the last one they get that from me and love me for it.
Due to the feedback I get about my personal life as a friend to several women, ALL comments I get from my gender have to do with "fringe" benefits I get. The referential topic has to do with sex and there are women clients whose husbands decease and their neighbors boldly ask for sex in exchange for their services like cutting grass, snow shovelling, etc.
It seems to be all about sex and everyone assumes a friendship with a woman will end up in the bedroom. Not so, at least in my case.
So you triggered me but it is not your fault, and I am touchy on the subject. I do wonder why you did not use the word, "gender" instead of sex but word usage to me is critical in discussions with clients that do go to delicate places. One therefore must be precise.
At any rate, you have been the recipient of a part of my life many are not aware of but the more the news travels the more requests I get and I well understand why women want a man in their lives they can call on for help or to discuss serious concerns.
But to answer your query, I referred to intelligence by way of my over three decades of being in business and dealing primarily with women noting that women have the nobler character traits and the greater capacity to intellectual ability. Take Dr. J. And I will throw in a sexist comment for the "halibut," She is a lot easier to look at than a man. and her unassuming way of rattling off facts breaks my mind. Intelligent gals are sooooooo attractive.
That is a highlight of Substack. The women are so acutely sharp mentally.
I don’t think this issue is about ‘injecting’ beliefs. You and Denis are both scientists, so if one feels the other is forcing his/her beliefs on the other (s), the best way to deal with this challenge and reject those beliefs is to do science as this is not religion we are talking about here. Science is about inference. You are both very familiar with the scientific method, right?
Ask a question.
Construct a hypothesis.
Test your hypothesis by doing an experiment.
Analyze your data and draw a conclusion.
Communicate your findings to others.
BTW: I’m not sure I’m the only one who got the impression you attempt to defend your position in this post that may be at odds with the emerging evidence provided not only by Denis. I also find you statement quite odd:
”3. some kind of man-made sequence of nucleotides encoding something nasty called spike protein is in both the original recipe chicken SARS-2, and apparently, in the injections themselves.”
Some kind of man-mad sequence…apparently found in the injections? I think we both have enough evidence to doubt this very much the western blots submitted to many health agencies by Pfizer look really fake…
You worry about you career and the future that can be jeopardized by your public statements… I think we all understand that. Some of us lost our jobs, families, friends, funding, lots of money because of the stand we had taken. It was painful be but we sleep well at night with peace of mind. It is a gratifying feeling…
Fake western blots are evidence of fraud. They are not evidence of the nonexistence of man-made nucleotide sequences or anything else... barring maybe the ethics of the Pfizer Corporation.
Just because there are man-made sequences it doesn’t mean they are going to code for anything, like a spike protein or any protein. Even if they do code for some protein (s), it doesn’t mean they are going to be dangerous to the host cell or the organism…
Eukaryotic cells misfold proteins all the time but they get recycled…
Yes... Rancourt's argument is that anyone who knows about COVID misdeeds -- from iatrocide, to nudge units, to number fudging, to forced injections -- must conclude that there was no novel pathogen. Anyone who doesn't, is impugned as stupid.
But a conclusion is not a fact. It's an interpretation, and depending on how strongly it's cherished by its bearer, can range from hypothesis to judgement to belief to dogma.
There are mountains of evidence supporting the existence of a pathogenic, likely engineered, SARS-CoV2 spike protein. I hear no rational debunking of this evidence from the "no novel pathogen" camp. What I hear instead from folks in this camp, when faced with this evidence, is stuff like, "It's just a myth!". Based on this response, I have to rate the "no novel pathogen" camp as residing in the belief or dogma territory. It sometimes almost presents as religion.
SMS - I think most people are unaware of the big picture, and the magnitude, regarding bioweapons labs throughout the world. I also think many people aren’t willing or able to accept it, because it’s so horrible.
Yes. It is the national practice here in Canuckistan for people to stick their heads in the ground with their asses jacked high that can be easily kicked with a steel toed boot. CANUCKISTAN IS A NATION OF druggees, weed, alcoholics, and other substance abuse dweebs, who vote for turdo and ignore his excesses.
Less than 1/3 of us voted for him though, so don't paint us all with the same brush. Canada is also a nation of strong, independent minded, intelligent human beings just like every other country. I know that because I'm one of them.
WE are in the minority. That's always the case. Everywhere. The majority are followers because that's how our subconscious minds are programmed in order to keep us safely in the herd. But I don't believe there are fewer druggies, alcoholics and substance abusers in the US or any other Western country. That's thanks to the powers that shouldn't be who have encouraged drug use through lax laws and media programming. Though Canadians are maybe a little too "polite" for our own good, if you remember, the truckers' convoy started here in Canada and this became a way to protest mandates and unfair government interventions that's still being used today globally.
I do not have a dog in the fight because I have accepted that ai Don have a way to verify either side of the argument but I thought the fairly recent debate between Steve kirsch and Andrew Kaufman was quite interesting. You might listen to it for a better understanding of the “no virus” perspective. I thought Kaufman made some excellent arguments about some basic accepted principles of viral science that may be erroneous.
I too avoid getting into the "no virus" debate. Partly because I'm not a biologist, and partly because it's an unneccessary rabbithole that distracts from the main issue.
That's why I talk about the protein, rather than the virus.
There's plenty of strong evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein exists, and is a novel and likely engineered pathogen. Whether it's delivered via virus or Pfizer trojan horse mRNA injection, is not the central issue. We have the same problem regardless.
It occurs to me that some of the thought leaders who try to lead us down this path, may be trying to distract us from the central problem.
Quote; "I....avoid getting into the "no virus" debate......because it's an unneccessary rabbithole that distracts from the main issue"
Hmmm? The main issue is that in 2020 the whole world was shut down & then propagandized to take an injection to "protect" against a "virus" that has not been proven to exist.
Next quote; "There's plenty of strong evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein exists"
Links please....anyway where is proof that SARS-Cov-2 exists?
Next quote; "and is a novel and likely engineered pathogen"
Hmm? Pathogen you say, a quick search reveals; Pathogen,
[ˈpaθədʒ(ə)n] noun, a bacterium, virus, or other microorganism that can cause disease.
Where is the proof that microorganisms are pathogenic? Bearing in mind the following definitions;
Infectious [in-ˈfek-shə] adjective, resulting from an infection with one or more pathogenic agents.
Infection [ɪnˈfɛkʃ(ə)n] noun, the process of infecting or the state of being infected by an infectious disease.
Contagion [kənˈteɪdʒ(ə)n] noun, the communication of disease from one person to another.
So... how would this pathogenic "protein" propogate, i.e. pass from person to person? Pray tell.
0f course not forgetting this list of failed contagion studies compiled by Jacob Diaz.
How to Make the Perfect Spike Protein Surprise à la Fraudulent Flambé
Welcome, culinary viro-LIE-gists, to a masterclass in whipping up the most talked-about dish in the scientific community – the Spike Protein Surprise à la Fraudulent Flambé. This delicacy is not just a treat for the eyes but also a conversation starter at any lab meeting. Follow these steps to create a concoction that will surely make headlines and corral the public away from the truth.
Instructions:
1. Prepare the base: Begin by gently detaching your murine fibroblast cells with Trypsin, ensuring they stay intact and content. Once detached, immerse them in a nutrient-rich medium spiked with penicillin-streptomycin to keep unwanted bacteria at Bay Watch.
Add a generous helping of fetal bovine serum to enrich the medium, giving the cells a luxurious environment for the ‘spike protein’ to birth from. Everything is a toxin depending on the dose. But just the right amount of Trypsin works miracles in a crowning achievement!
2. Induce Cytopathic Effects: Let the cells soak up the ingredients until they exhibit those characteristic CPEs, signalling they’re ready for the next culinary step.
3. Prepare the Supernatant: Carefully clarify your cell culture supernatant. To balance the flavors, mix in 0.9% NaCl.
For the pièce de résistance, add a half volume of 30% polyethylene glycol. This will precipitate your ‘viral’ and hence ‘spike protein’ particles beautifully, creating a rich, thick texture.
4. Concentrate and Radiolabel: Centrifuge the mixture to concentrate the particles. Once done, add a pinch of Uridine and amino acids, then gently stir in some detergent to release the particles from their cellular confines.
5. Separate the Proteins: Now, it’s time for SDS-PAGE. Pour your mixture into the gel, and season with additional treatment-mixture chemicals. Charge it under high voltage for 4 hours, ensuring perfect protein separation.
6. Label and ‘Detect:’ Garnish with theoretical antibodies, crafted with care, to label your proteins. Be sure to claim the particles observed were the ones you sought – no proper controls needed here!
7. Prepare for Presentation: Plate ample servings of your purified glycoprotein on carbon-coated Formvar-covered 400-mesh copper grids. Finish with a delicate stain of 2% phosphotungstic acid at pH 7.2.
8. Serve with a Smile: Finally, present your dish with a smile. Garnish with arrows and labels to declare whatever suits your fancy.
Voila! Presenting our signature dish: “Spike Protein Surprise à la Fraudulent Flambé" – a culinary masterpiece ready for the prettiest EM pic!
Please pin your name to one paper proving the existence of SARS COV 2. Did the team poison cell cultures with antibiotics to induce cytopathic effects, claim a virus caused cell breakdown, and run no control?? Just one from the mountain of evidence will do. Shouldn‘‘t be too difficult.
Calm down Factsinator. I specifically said "protein" not "virus" in order to avoid a fruitless dialog like the one you may wish to pursue.
If you really want to know more about the spike _protein_ and how it's encoded in the mRNA vaxxes, which seems to me to be pretty good evidence for its existence, try the Nepetalactone Newsletter. It's actually pretty fascinating. Just ignore the virus parts if you like. There's no virus in the jabs, but they're sure enough going to get spike protein all over your body if you take one.
If I recall correctly, the guy makes gene sequencing equipment. He was calibrating one of his machines by using the Pfizer vaccine as a reference (which, by the way, he could do because the spike protein molucular structure is published, and he was able to use this specification to calibrate off of, which seems to indicate that it's real). Anyway, this led him to find a lot of dirty Pfizer secrets. And then Moderna. Several other scientists have independently reproduced his findings.
And if you really want to know about the pathology of the spike protein, try https://wmcresearch.substack.com. Tons of research there. Pick out what you like, get mad at the rest if you like.
Or google for papers and videos by several German pathologists (Schirmacher, Burkhardt, Lang) who present their autopsy findings for post-vaccine deaths. Spoiler: spike protein is involved. These documents aren't all in one place, but here's one link I found to get you started: https://pathologie-konferenz.de/en/
There is much more but I'm done going down this rabbit hole. Enjoy!
Is this a fair general criticism of ‘spike protein’ studies ? The “proteins” observed in EM images arise from unpurified cell culture processes, where numerous substances are added, and nothing is isolated. For a protein to be featured in a study, it undergoes quite a complex journey. It’s quite a stretch to believe that the particles depicted in heavily altered, dead, and fixed states truly reflect actual biological processes. They are merely artefacts of the extensive processes used to achieve the final results.
They printed out a genome, no virus was found. It says in English in the first paragraph, "Metagenomic RNA sequencing [COMPUTER ASSEMBLY] of a sample of bronchoalveolar lavage fluid (BALF) [NOT FROM A VIRUS] from the patient [NOT MANY PATIENTS AND NO CONTROL] identified a new RNA virus strain".
They will continue to deflect and not answer your questions.
Others try the Bacteriophage Angle. They have VIRUS in its definition, so therefore it is one! No Sorry. Those are Bacteria Eaters and do exist and are everywhere, but are phagocytes (in Humans), and could be misclassified on purpose.
I think you are applying a hypothesis about virus studies, to protein studies. These are very different things.
A protein is not a biological process, it's a molecule. It is used by biological processes. It is not dead, any more than my table is dead -- because it was never alive.
Hello, before I look into the links please could you lemme know what you mean by a spike protein? I ask because if none of the “coronaviruses” (ranging in size from 60 to 150 nm) have ever been properly purified, isolated, and separated from everything else in order to be independently studied, the much smaller surface spikes of the “virus” (ranging from 9 to 12 nm) have also never been properly purified and isolated in order to be independently studied.
Well, I'm not sure here, but as I understand the technical "no virus" argument, there is no claim that we can't know what a protein is. I think the argument is that we've only isolated pieces of what are called viruses, but we've never seen a whole intact "virus".
Well, the pieces of a hypothetical virus would be proteins.
Proteins are just long chain molecules. They are not alive, they do not attempt to reproduce themselves. Proteins are extremely important to many biological processes and have been under intense study for 300 years. In animals, plants, funghi, and some single-celled life, proteins are encoded by RNA, which is encoded by DNA in the cell nucleus (unless you take the jab, LOL). RNA is translated into protein by little protein factories in our cells called ribosomes. The wikipedia article on proteins actually seems to be a good introduction (it must not be a political topic; hasn't been subjected to propaganda edits.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein
Anyway, to your point, seems like it would actually be much harder to properly purify and isolate a more complex thing (eg, an entire "virus") than a simpler thing (eg, a protein). Rather than easier as you suggest.
Sorry, I'm still not clear what you mean by spike protein. Please could you clarify. Do you believe spike proteins are present on the SARS COV2 ‘virus?‘ Also, could you cite a study that claims to have isolated a spike protein. It would be greatly appreciated.
March 2, 2023: U.S. Centers for Disease Control can't prove the existence of "SARS-COV-2 spike protein"
Roger Andoh, acting as FOIA Officer in the Office of the Chief Operating Officer, CDC and Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, confessed that these institutions have zero proof of the existence of the alleged "SARS-COV-2 spike protein", this time to my colleague Louis Stephen.
Also, in this response, Roger evaded:
- a request for proof of claims regarding so-called "SARS-COV-2" antibodies,
- a request for documentation explaining why it's necessary to use synthetic rather than natural (alleged) mRNA in convid jabs,
- a request for documentation explaining why it's necessary to use monkey kidney cells to (allegedly but not really) grow a "virus" that supposedly infects human lungs, etc.:
That is the odd part here: the need to beat a dead horse here with what are ultimately only opinions...even if carefully considered ones.
Ranacourt and others discount the observations of some really astute clinicians who were on the front lines and who felt that they were seeing a novel virus. could they have been wrong? Of course they could have been. But they had access to experience and raw data and judgement that he clearly did NOT have. He should not so easily dismiss that.
I'm on the fence. I just read that a Slovakian investigation into the covid-era concluded with no true pandemic ever occured. But I can't locate the paper and don't read slovak so what do I know. I think it would be very beneficial for you and Denis to have a sit down and put in on one of the safer platforms. What exactly does he mean by no pandemic - is he refuting the virus completely? It would be good to see an adult conversation among friends with intelligent questions and answers.
I'm not sure that a belief CAN be "forced" upon another, if ones paradigm is buttressed with proof of truth. Oh, sure, it is consistently attempted for selfish reasons, but once the truth is discovered, it is almost impossible to dislodge. There is ONE thing that I will admit to here, however, and that is that ones SENSES, when invoked, tend to act as "proof" and is a stimulus for a change of mind. The devil knows that, and has used, and WILL use that tactic, since it has been so very effective to his cause.
Just a bit of "truth" for the record.
God bless all who agree. God bless all who do not!
I think the psychopaths are not only among us but are in charge, in fact it’s one of our fundamental flaws as a society to let emotionally pathological people be successful and gain power.
Your comment to Denis is loaded with good Scorpio energy.
Denis is an Aries. That impatience of his tweet (which I share) is Aries energy. This clashes with Scorpio energy, which, among many other things, is the opposite of impatience.
However, while you are correct that both ideas are not necessarily mutually excluding, the non-existence is sufficient to the no-pandemic claim, and the no-pandemic claim is sufficient to argue that if there was ever a virus, it was nothing at all what we were told.
Lastly, the permanent economic disaster and cultural chaos and epidemic of mental disorders, as well as the utter ransacking of everything adds weight to the claim that there was no-virus at all, but it was a very useful theatrical prop to facilitate the power grab and the monetary grab.
Also, mentally ill people are easier to handle. And everyone else is burdened with them, so the gap between the social classes becomes wider. And the cultural chaos makes all sorts of crimes far more easier, like wars. Protection and security have become a luxury these days.
He was probably too stupid for you. You would be difficult to follow with your intelligence but were I 100 years younger, I expect I could humor your emotional side and gain your favor. You possess a high IQ, perhaps in the top 1%. If you are not married I know you realize a transparent trustworthy man is essential to your happiness.
I agree 100% with Edward and if you are not with a partner it's only because you have a greater purpose in life and when you got that for destiny, you have to be alone. You are an amazing woman Jessica Rose and don't you ever change. You are meant to save the world. You don't have time for a partner. That's why you are a high energy body. I'm curious about your numerology now LOL. A 9, or a master number for sure. Kids in our days with these numbers are classified as ADHD or whatever. They are high energy kids that just can't stay in place because they need to be occupy by doing things, discovering and so on and if this does not happen! They become destructive because they're feeling lost without proper guidance and help them exercise lots. In my younger time I would have probably be classified as an ADHD kid. Good I was a lot in sports and all kind of activities. It made my life easier instead and... healthier. Diet is also important.
In the beginning, I could grok that the shots were no good. Then that they lied to us about proper treatment. From there, various sacred cows died, Like the JFK assassination and 9/11. Then I got to know of Denis, and there went the pandemic. Somewhere in there I lost the moon landing. And I wanted to be an astronaut when I was a kid! Now I am reading two well researched books on the existence of viruses Called, "Virus Mania "by Torsten Engelbrecht, and "Can you Catch a Cold" by Daniel Roytas.
We all reach our perception of the truth at differing speeds, so it's reasonable to be gracious when dealing with others who are at differing stages. The faster ones look crazy to the slower ones. You don't want to get too far out ahead of these things.
That being said, it is critical that we understand that we did NOT see a raging pandemic caused by a virus in 2020, according to Prof Rancourt's excellent work that looks at the one statistic that cannot be faked, All Cause Mortality.
As long as we all understand that they cannot PCR us into fear that leads to all the horrors we saw, we're good.
Jessica, are you aware of any paper(s) that actually isolated and purified the SARS COV 2 virus, showed electron micrographs of whole virions, Characterized their genetics and then infected some animal with these to cause the disease, then used that animal to sicken another?
We did manage to have an unusual URI going around the winter before the vaxxes came out. On pain of sounding gross, my experience when I caught the damned thing on March 2nd, 2020 was that it began as a dry cough then followed as a productive cough, producing stringy phlegm that behaved like rubber cement. Reading some data out of Italy that 70% of their diagnosed COVID fatalities had pre-existing hypertension, I self-treated with noodles, rice, chicken bullion and raw garlic as a soup. The garlic helped with social distancing as anyone who came to the door smelled it and when I told them "it's COVID" quickly fled my doorstep. (Some poor alliophobes probably now conflate garlic breath with COVID infection thanks to me, but the space between coughs was brief and I had no urge to waste it on speeches). However, garlic is a cheap nonprescription aid for lowering blood pressure, so I ate garlic, guzzled water, went totally off caffeine, and had pain in my ribs from each cough for six entire weeks, and kept bringing up stringy phlegm. 30 years previously I had viral pneumonia from a Type A flu, and it kept relapsing over 4 months but was not as difficult as the 2020 virus.
So I'll happily speak to the existence of an unique infection, to which I earned natural immunity by harboring it for six weeks. Whether it had spike proteins I have no idea...I lived in Michigan back then and did not have contacts at the Arizona Microscopy Alliance who could have mounted it, sputtered on a layer of graphene, pumped down the vacuum chamber and shot a Scanning Electron Micrograph of the damned things.
For me, it’s something artistic. It’s funny to find coincidences. For example, Taurus people are all about material things and disregard spiritual things. That happens a lot. Or Capricorn and their obsession with being prepared and follow the rules. Or the Leo people, and how almost every situation can become a party for them.
To me, the idea that a group of stars dozens to hundreds of light years away from Earth causes one of every twelve people to be similar in any way based on what time of year they were born is absurd. I am confident that none of the babies born within a few weeks of me in the same small geographical area (and still alive as adults) is anything like me, and that their differences are as widely distributed as can be expected for a small sample of the human beings on Earth.
I am possessed of the ability to change midstream from a crybaby listening to an abused woman and breaking as she tore huge holes in my heart to converting as I did in the same scenario to one who can and does become rough and hates with a passion. I am sure any who have followed my comments already know that having seen the soft side and the rough side of me they are aware of that reality and that abused woman who broke me as I listened to things that had happened to her has been my best friend for 29 years uninterrupted but always attuned in mind, soul and spirit to each the other in a secure, friendship where she gets respect, cherishment and understanding from me as the ONLY person she ever trusted.
Those are the two predominant auras I possess and she and I refer to our close friendship as the Eagles Titled song, "Peaceful Easy Feeling."
Many women tell me that. Many more regard me as "sooooooo bad" based on the reality of my hatred for corruption and injustice that now has driven me to the OIPRD to take down or at least expose some criminal and crooked cops.
I am all in. My target list is five OPP with four being in high levels. Plus two dopey and corrupt biased JP's, two corrupt bureaucraps, and perhaps detachment commanders going back at least two decades.
Yes I am a good listener but also a problem solver but my "forte" has been and is abused women. I get calls from time to time from them to take them out to discuss issues. These are smart women, and there are some I am beneficient with who have little money. Not trusting a man they still want one in their lives and I guess it is me.
But back to the corruption.
How about an OPP already dumped but after four years of collecting his pay after raping a drunken woman and taking pictures of her. My personal targets are in violation of the CCC, Charter Rights, OPP Promise, and B of R. Multiple criminal violations. Their problem is they did not pick a sheeple.
The USA in my experience has great officers...state troopers, local city police, etc that I find amenable and deserving of my respect. Up here in Canuckistan it is not so.
But why one or the other? Why not economic disaster, cultural chaos, mental disorders, ransacking of everything AND a virus to keep it real? Not deadly as they claimed. Because they grow em so why not use em? (I'm a Taurus, so whatever your answer I will stubbornly believe what I like ... but then again, that's most of us!)
I see. I say that's what the PCR test was for. Dial it up or down as needed.
Moon's also in Taurus, as are several planets. Didn't see them coming but recognized them when they arrived. Didn't care what anyone said, wasn't wearing a mask or taking a jab because made no sense and... stubborn. Pisces husband thought I was nuts. Figured it out before it was too late though for which I'm grateful.
Loss of smell, like some many other of the horrors of Covid, is not new, not unique to Covid. A coworker I knew before the panic had lost his sense of smell many years prior to our meeting from a common cold. It sucks, but it happens and not just from covid. I chalk it up to the same sort of thing they did with the fact that there was no cure for covid. That is true of all viral diseases. All we can do is replenish the bodies arsenal of nutrients etc. It expends as it fights off the viral infection, drink lots of fluids and get plenty of sleep and take symptom relieving medications. But they hyped the fact that it is untreatable and most took this to mean that this was unique to Covid.
Whether there is or isn’t a SARS cov 2 virus and whether or not it causes anything and whether or not it is new or been with us for millennia, we would never have known it existed without the “testing”. The fact that testing was done differently for Covid than for all other diseases, especially epidemic and pandemic ones, indicates that this is at least in part, a testing driven pandemic.
Nicely said Jess. People who feel the need to impose their view on others by force rather than argument are de facto abhorrent. We know that many of them are playing a role and others are getting sucked in. Those who are genuine need to avoid becoming the monsters they claimed to be fighting.
agreed. i feel more and more that the monster of greed and fame and money and power might be ensnaring a lot of people (not pointing to anyone in particular here) who might have once been somewhat immune to these things.
Never ever change you clever badass wave surfing flamenco dancing Canadian scientist you. 👏👏👏
Just paid this post forward to a new "online buddy" who may not have ever heard of you or the work you've dedicated much of your waking hours to for the past 3 something years.
And?
You're a "Cat Lady" but not much of a people person to boot? Bloody legend! ♥️
"Love you long time" dear Jessica Rose. 🌹
Coincidentally: I mentioned "Scorpios" during an online back & forth email chat yesterday, with my newish friend in the "Great Blue Beyond". And here you are. 😉
If you're at all interested in that sorta stuff (I'm interested in all kinds of stuff. A dabbler if you will...) look into your "complementary sign" Jess. If Scorpio, your ideal "love match" would be Taurus. ♥️
Mine would be Capricorn.
Only ever found one. That was well over 40 years ago now, but he nimbly sprinted off before I was able to discover if any of that astrological stuff is true... 😉
We touched upon money too.
It might well talk, "but it can't sing and dance and it can't walk..."
Does the idea of imposing views include intentionally misleading people by calling decades old mRNA TRANSFECTIONS vaccines when syringe delivery is only thing in common?
Why say no loss of smell stories? It wasn’t just smell, because that would allow for at least some taste. It was all taste. Never experienced that before in my life. What is that, psychological? I got no other symptoms they said I’d get, save a fever. And extremely bloodshot eyes, which I never read about. Ivermectin wiped it out in a day., unless that was psychological too.
I think people forget about what it used to be like having a bad cold, because they have been told this is a 'new' symptom if a 'new' deadly whatever. Give it a fancy label and oooooh . ... Job done.
She could always smell everything, even with heavy congestion and a zinc deficiency. No data given other than Feels. Terrifying Feels. When one must explain the unknown, use a big adjective.
I lost taste/smell 48 hrs, but over 2 years also had altered smell perceptions - could smell mouldy mushrooms whilst cooking, and sometimes out of the house. Weird, and unpleasant!
I lost my sense of smell about 20 years ago. I think it happened gradually as I didn’t notice it. We have Bradbury trees in the south of the US and everyone says they stink but I couldn’t smell them. Then I noticed I couldn’t identify coffee, peanut butter, cinnamon, vanilla. I still don’t know what caused it. Now when I cook certain foods I have to have my husband sample them to make sure the spices are right.
I don't think your idea that SARS-COV-2 exists and Denis' are conflicting, the difference is the virulence of SARS-COV-2. Denis' research suggests it was no more lethal than typical seasonal flu, that is my understanding. Anyways, expressing your thoughts and asking questions is a good thing unless we turn into what we despise.
Covid-19 could have not given any important number of excess deaths. But pneumonia could not have resulted in any bigger part of deaths in the official "Covid-19 deaths" group (by the CDC) too. The easiest way to prove it is to show the average number of chronic conditions is not visibly increased against a comparative group of alive ones with the same age-structure. In: 'Extended Abstract' + 'Remarks' + 'Additional Notes' of https://zenodo.org/record/8312871
I haven't read this research from Rancourt, thanks for mentioning it.
Rancourt has many followers who directly posit that there is no SARS-CoV2 spike protein. "Because it's a myth!" was the intellectual justification from one of them. I guess this has left a profound impression on me of what Rancourt is about. I'd better go to the source, but he doesn't help when his many tweets dismiss anyone who doesn't 100% submit to his views as stupid.
Many of Rancourt's followers can be found in the comments section of "no pandemic" substack articles by Neil, Engler, and Hockett. I followed this group from inception up until recently, and have read many of their articles. They seem to favor pure statistical analysis, lightly dismiss strong observational evidence, impugn medical journals on one hand while using them as supporting evidence on the other, and never even mention monumental physical evidence such as autopsy findings since 2021 from several German pathologists (Schirmacher, Burkhardt, Lang).
So, I believe, there is something not quite coldly scientific there. But does this reflect Rancourt? I guess I still need to work on that.
Thanks for the link. It's excellent. Especially like the reverse engineering of the paper claiming "millions of lives saved by the vaccine".
And this part at around 30:00... "At the end of the day, the excess mortality is caused by political interventions, by public health measures that should not have been applied. And that includes the vaccine rollouts because there's very clearly no evidence that the vaccines prevented excess death, or caused any benefit."
100% agree.
Still, this doesn't rule out a novel pathogen, especially since the western "vaccines" trick the body into producing the pathenogenic protein in vast quantities and tissues not attainable by a respiratory virus. As the author states, "it's an ongoing debate".
When we say that the COVID CFR was [number] there is some subjectivity there, since some deaths may have been caused by the hospital treatments (e.g. remdesivir). That is inevitable. However, people definitely did get infected, run fever, and many of them had crashing SpO2. Without treatment, we know some percentage of them would have died or been seriously injured. The thing with excess deaths is you can only die once. If a whole lot of old people die through May 2020 from covid, they won't be around to die from the other stuff that would have killed them during the same year. That doesn't mean there wasn't a covid going around killing people.
The question is, before the pandemic, were there not people who had crashing SpO2 rates? And how were they treated before the pandemic vs. for this disease? Were they using other protocols during the pandemic that were previously successful and now for some reason were not successful at all? Of those in the hospital and treated with the Covid protocol, how many of them were admitted for other reasons and "tested positive" for Covid?
My understanding is that COVID 19 pneumonia is caused by microclots in the lungs and reduced lung elasticity, and the ventilator thing is what one uses for flu pneumonia, but was not appropriate for covid oneumonia, due to different mechanism. Dr. Marik and Dr. Kory figured all that out within the first few months of 2020, but were ignored.
You probably don't have time to look very deeply into this land of Shenanigans so here's some quicky links for you, regarding Kory and his Testimony back in 2020.
Rose will never talk much about Particle Isolation and the faulty Original Discovery papers. Who are Tom Cowan, Mark Bailey, Andrew Kaufman, Christine Massey? Have you read a Farewell to Virology? Many More people are seeing how fraudulent Big Biz is, especially, Pharma, and the lengths they will go to fool/terrify people for their own profit.
I was following the monthly reports from Kory and Marik since March 2020, so I have first hand knowledge of how they evolved their views, and my assessment above is accurate. The one and only substantive thing that FLCCC fumbled on was in withdrawing their recommendation to use HCQ, however they has an overall good protocol, and came back around on that later and corrected themselves. I also read Kory's paper on COVID pneumonia where he pretty much explains the rationale for using steroids, which he proposed long before it was grudgingly accepted by the mainstream, in a half hearted way.
Kory was present during the // Big Loss of Patients "due to covid" // at the beginning (april 2020 - june 2020). He worked the Covid ER, WITH the Hospital Protocols. That's what my links above say, if you follow them. This timeline implicates him to abiding by the Hospital Protocols that caused Damage (ventilators, sedatives etc.), facilitated by FAKE Virus PCR test Results, while pretending to be "at war with a virus™"
FLCCC gets Huge Donations from Northwell Health. Who is the CEO of Northwell Health? Northwell killed Rebecca Charles Daughter via Hospital Protocols. https://deathbyhospitalprotocol.com/
One can treat pneumonia with Prednisone, yes? (yes I see you stated Steroids). Why give the anti-parasitic (IVM) unless you know there is a parasite? There was no rush to treat Covid Patients or Overloaded Hospitals. "We are at war with a Virus - Pierre Kory™ " is part of the Operation. It was a Huge Orchestrated Financial Scam.
If you don't know why ivermectin can be beneficial for hospitalized covid patients, when there is no parasite, then it is you that needs to do some reading, and you could start with my 2024 preprint. Kory and Marik developed their own protocols, used then, had mortality rates down by a factor of 2, published their results, and were then attacked by their own hospitals who pressured the journals to retract. I think there are some pharma shills that are working the "holier than thou" angle to attack our good doctors while the woke morons work the "discredited/misinformation" angle on the left side. The Sage Hanna person you referred to earlier is a total fruitcake. Had a look because Paul Alexander promoted her stack, then she started attacking him too. Not credible. Could be a shill, or just a fruitcake.
Can you share your link supporting the claim that the FLCCC (of which the leading physicians Marik and Kory lost their board certifications, i.e. as "non-establishment" as it gets) receives huge donations from Northwell Health, the largest hospital system in NYC?
The flu numbers during the “pandemic” went to zero…so could it have just been the annual flu renamed and weaponized under the (still very strange and suspect title) C.O.V.ID. ??
And what if is was all about nano inside of a synthetic p.e.g. lipoNANOparticle that was just given the name of “spike protein” because it sounds more scientific…all as a move towards digitally identifying people from the inside out…as part of a digital I.d. agenda?? I.E.
when we all accept their data - ie: flu numbers went to 0, aren't we just possibly falling for more of their crap lies? unless flu is systematically released every year, it went nowhere. ahem. ahem.
Maybe the truth is hidden in the details and what they look for is already in the population. Gain of Function aka pure synthetic clones, is the ONLY way virology can study RNA viral particles and these sequences are in ALL the flu shots even egg based flu shots so it's possible every flu shot delivers the signals they look for but regardless RNA molecules do not have the fidelity to pandemic.
(best way to slog through 1,000+ pages is search for "however" where every petrie dish GoF model has note these do not reflect wild type virus or human immune response because clones are not real world & people are not cell cultures )
Possibly, but it wasn’t “them” saying anything about flu numbers disappearing, it was the alternative voices looking at accessible data that was not being talked about, specifically a shift over of flu numbers to Covid numbers. Flu deaths in 2019 were actually slightly higher than Covid numbers in 2020 during the “pandemic”. Pretty trippy.
And whether Covid 19 was naturally occurring (remember that narrative) or a lab leak, either narrative gets you to emergency measures to develop an EUA for an experimental mRNA “vaccine” that contains nano-some kind of something (still not fully disclosed) …but let’s call it liponanoparticle / spike protein / mRNA encased miracle solution to a pandemic claiming less lives than the previous years’ flu….just seems like a great cover for a transhuman experiment like the WEF’ers and technocrats such as Bill Gates, Yuval Harare, Ray Kurzweil et al have been having wet dreams about for decades…to control the masses, cull whom they wilt, and realize their own attempts at eternal life extension through technologies that are now possible to make their dreams a reality.
It, the man made GOF virus, did not claim less lives. (Yes, please understand that all the numbers of who died from what, are FUBAR, yet all cause mortality went up considerably post COVID, and prior to the vaccine.
All the accusations of restricted treatment, denying effective prophalactic treatment, harmful treatments. etc, they are true. You can't get "emergency authorization" if there are working, known safety profile alternatives. There were. Ivermectin has an effective zero risk profile (1 in 600,000 for serious adverse events) and while Budesonide does have some risks they're well-known and characterized as the drug has been used for decades on a chronic basis for asthma. When used on an acute basis such as here the risks are very close to zero. Never mind Hydroxyurea which nobody still talks about at all and which a small palliative care hospital used in critically-ill Covid patients in 2020 who were all expected to die and saved nearly all of them.
When it comes to the origin of Covid that it was a "natural evolution" of something originally found in bats is KNOWN to be false. Within weeks of the virus the original sequencing coming to light it was known that the virus contains two amino acid coding blocks in sequence that never happen in nature among either bats, pangolins or humans, the two alleged precursors and of course us. That specific pairing is used in virology research for this exact reason; if you are trying to find out if something can be passed through in an experiment (since viruses cannot live independently all such research inherently must pass the virus through some sort of living tissue) you use this as a marker since it never happens naturally; if you get it out the other side you know you successfully passed it through said experiment and are not looking at a fluke. The presence of this group doesn't prove Wuhan released it either accidentally or otherwise but it does prove that man tampered with the virus on an intentional basis somewhere in its developmental path and thus humans are absolutely, with 100% certainty, responsible for its existence as without said tampering that pair of amino acids would not be present -- period.
And that is why denying the known and still manifesting harms of the man made gain of function virus is letting some very very criminal behaviour, off scott free.
Yes, Covid is less deadly up front, and the initial CFR is very low. Yet there are millions who did not take the vaccine, yet are severely disabled by long Covid, and many many studies, and autopsies of those that died, that show that the spike protein, in the vaccine and in the man made GOF virus, is both deadly and if not deadly, cause to their disability, with very similar to the vaccine harms. There are doctors like the founder of MedCram, doctor Dr Roger Seheult; "He is quadruple board-certified in Internal Medicine, Pulmonary Diseases, Critical Care Medicine and Sleep Medicine through the American Board of Internal Medicine, and Dr Paul Anderson, and they simply work on treatments, bypassing the Covid vs vaccine politics. Look up MedCram, and research these studies.
Myself, I watched my unvaccinated wife (I think with her prior compromised immune system she whould very likely have died from the vaccine) get the man made Covid in late 2022, and break out in hives, extreme weakness, and go deaf and get tennatus, all overnight, and still she suffers horribly from Long Covid.
The long term harms of the man made GOF virus will not be fully known for at least another five plus years. Why. Because the main target is the immune system, and the brain, and that is two areas we have very limited understanding of, yet can and do, if harmed, and the virus does harm them, cause an extremely wide variety of harms. Those harms are manifesting globally, in the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. Dont let the criminals that developed this man made GOF viru, off the hook!
I am so sorry to hear about your wife. Sincerely!! Here is a recent interview that if you would please listen, I think there could be answers here for your wife’s diagnosis of long covid and a protocol that I truly believe could be the answer for her using edta protocol and vitamin C as a chelation to the blood. I’ve had many long covid people cured using the protocol in this video. It may seem pretty far out, but please listen all the way through with an open mind. I believe it is the answer for your wife’s condition.
These were never vaccines they are decades old failed cancer therapy known as TRANSFECTIONS any similarity ends at syringe delivery. Tragic folks who claim to be resistance to Pharma can't give up the wrong terminology that adds confusion.
The CDC fudges the flu numbers every year to scare people into getting flu vaccines. They count pneumonia deaths as flu deaths and use fancy statistical methods to make the number of deaths look big. So, it was easy just to count all of that as from Covid.
Rancourt is wrong. He only looks at numbers and ignores observed reality. Covid was real, and nasty, and has unique symptoms different from a flu, such as blood clotting. Of course, it was the hospital protocols & the withholding of effective treatments that killed people. If the highly effective at home treatments were allowed, it would have been a big nothing burger.
Makes me wonder, where have they been getting those flu numbers from, all these years?
The universal medical response to flu-like illness was always, "Something's going around. You'll have to let it run its course. Go home and get some rest. Testing? ... Nah! By the time we find out it'll be over".
I don't know of anyone who has ever been tested for flu.
You took the words right out of my mouth- perfectly stated. The one thing I find interesting is that the "no pandemic" folks who argue (correctly, but the exact extent is debatable) that the official COVID mortality data is fudged, are more than willing to accept the fudged/inflated official flu mortality data, just because it suits their "no pandemic" narrative.
PCR was never a diagnostic tool & they can have primers that react to the most conserved proteins in EVERY coronavirus like looking for a pandemic of autos by searching for tires & every rtire gets labeled a car.. not fit for purpose unless perpetuating lies about what they can find about illness is used to hide the collection of genetic DNA population wide. Those swabs are worth fortunes to human genome project & sold as medical waste!!
An alternative reality where I didn't physically get ill from a disease I've never had before. And I say this as a person who very rarely gets ill from cold or flu (last time I had a flu I think I was... 14? Decades, basically; never took one of those poisonous flu shots, either).
Ignoring the "loss of smell" as symptomology is dishonest, frankly. It also comes with a loss of taste, which is not something I've ever experienced in either colds or flu. It's not like a stuffy nose; the nasal passage is typically clear. It is a net neurological loss of taste and smell.
I think the implied fallacy is people are conflating 'lack of lethality' with 'lack of virus'. Viruses exist without lethality. It's why the common cold is a thing. For a virus to rapidly spread, it has to be, on average, less fatal. It's why the original SARS burned out but SARS-CoV-2 didn't; even the demograph marked as 'high probability of dying' were the very old - over 80s, I do believe?
It is possible for a virus to exist, lack lethality, and for the governments to have used it as an excuse to kill people with protocols E.G. Midazolam murders. They are opportunists and psychopaths first and foremost. What was the saying? 'Never let a crisis go to waste'?
Re: "people are conflating 'lack of lethality' with 'lack of virus'." Yes. And for that matter, also 'lack of lethality' with 'lack of bio-weapon'.
Just because it's not a very good bio-weapon, doesn't mean it's wasn't a product of bio-weapons research. I've read some pretty lousy substack articles, but they are substack articles nonetheless.
Maybe SARS-CoV-2 spike is 9 parts Wile E. Coyote and 1 part Dr. No, but there is still much evidence to suggest that it's a new concoction. Dr. Coyote?
My early doors theory is SARS-CoV-2 was always meant to be an envelope type virus - it was supposed to carry a payload it was then meant to deliver. The other theory was worse; that SARS-CoV-2 had a "slow burn" protocol that would take years or decades to emerge (a bit like HIV).
I wouldn't say theory but more of an amusing "what if"... SARS-CoV-2 had already escaped the cupboard, possibly for observation possibly by accident, and they needed something to swing the 2020 election. When life hands you 2 lemons, well then you've got enough to make lemonade. Voila! A pandemic is born. Oh, and now we can try our wonder "vaccine".
I remember an interview with Dr. Zelenko where he retold how he noticed those strange pneumonias appearing in his practice that he could not treat. This piqued his interest and led him to the paper trail of patents from Ralph Baric and the zink ionophores. And he came up with that before all others iirc, this man deserves way more credit, RIP.
What does Rancourt argue about, there being no GoF Covid at all?
Zelenko was so sensible and down to earth. Basic premise - how best to treat his patients for what ailed them with what was available. And researched how. He did say that his personal experience with cancer and God had taught him to always look deeper. Bless his soul 🙏
From my perspective in New Zealand, where there is still censorship of anything other than government/pharma propaganda is that no, there was no pandemic by the accepted definition of a pandemic. Or at least, the definition that had been around in existence for a long time before the definition was 'updated' (along with the definition of a vaccine) to suit the measures that were rolled out worldwide. The politicians just wanted to be seen to "Do something, anything" and Big Pharma wanted to do what it always does and rake in the $$$. People have had their trust in themselves to keep themselves healthy undermined for decades and latched onto the "Do something, anything!" hook, line and sinker. Fear makes people do stupid things and this has been weaponised against us.
With regards to the existence or non-existence of the coronavirus labelled SARS-CoV-2, I am yet to see anything convincing (scientifically) that shows it doesn't exist. All of what I have seen to date, shows that it does exist, and it was synthetically created or at least synthetically altered. Were the number of infections blown massively out of proportion? Absolutely. But when you have to "Do something, anything!", making a disease that's not really any worse than seasonal flu out to be the coming apocalypse requires a lot of massaging of numbers. And it's sadly become so easy to do that labelling information and methods 'scientific' even when they're deeply flawed and deeply unscientific (some might say fraudulent even).
I know a lot of people now believe viruses don't exist at all. And being an open-minded sceptic I think that it's possible that viruses aren't exactly what we think they are. I mean, there's a lot in human science that just isn't understood, known or quantified. There is more that we don't know than there is what we do. But as above, I am yet to see any convincing evidence that viruses don't exist at all that can't be explained by Terrain Theory. I have asked the question over and over - if viruses don't exist, then why are some illnesses so defined by a specific set of symptoms? If kids get chicken pox, how is that they all have almost identical symptoms (unique genetics, physiology and health state lending some differences of course)? I still haven't gotten a plausible answer let alone evidence that adequately explains this.
Reading Denis, restricted to this one part of the tweet, it appears he is only saying there was no pandemic. He makes no mention of the alleged origin of the pneumonia nor does he seem to be denying suffering and death.
Neither does Denis say -- at least from what's posted here -- that he denies the existence of SARS CoV-2.
He is saying there was no pandemic; I agree. Does this warrant clarification? Yes...
It appears that Denis operates under the definition put forth by the W.H.O. until 2008: "An influenza pandemic occurs when a new influenza virus appears against which the human population has no immunity, resulting in several, simultaneous epidemics worldwide with enormous numbers of deaths and illness..."
Substitute "new coronavirus" for "new influenza virus." The definition has two parts: "new" and "enormous numbers of deaths and illness." So, "new coronavirus?" Check. "...simultaneous epidemics worldwide with enormous numbers of deaths and illness?" No check...
This was an 𝒐𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏, not a pandemic.
Did people get sick? Yes. Did they appear to have some new thing -- SARS CoV-2 -- that allegedly caused the illness? Yes. Were people "tested" with a thing never intended as a "test" -- despite Drosten? Yes. Was that thing -- PCR -- abused (elevated CTs) to the point of getting the "right" result? Yes. Were "positive" test results called "cases" even in the absence of symptomatic illness? Yes. Was this used to justify the use of the word "pandemic?" Yes.
Were people ordered to isolate, close their businesses, avoid medical care until blue? Yes. Was medical care for the "usual symptoms" denied? Yes. Was medical treatment for other illnesses closed off due to "COVID?" Yes. Was the treatment protocol, ultimately suffered by hospital patients, the wrong treatment? Yes. Were available and efficacious treatments denied and vilified? Yes. Did the media pound the ever-lovin' shit outta people to the point of near hysteria? Yes.
I could go on...
When the likes of a slimeball like Deborah Birx admits with her face hanging out, "When people start to realize that 99% of us are going to be fine, it becomes more and more difficult" to get people to comply, she said. https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2020/aug/18/birx-notes-harm-of-virus-fatigue/ there ain't no pandemic.
So. Yes, Denis is correct. There was no pandemic. What there was -- and still is -- is an 𝒐𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏.
Jessica, you were one of my go-to authorities in middle to late 2021. And without a doubt your information was pretty damn good ! And has remained consistently reliable throughout. For the last year or so, I’ve taken an interest in Denis Rancourt’s work. In fact last year I made a video about his work. The video is on my substack “FLASH BACK 14 There was no Pandemic” https://open.substack.com/pub/oxgmcxo/p/flash-back-14?r=pf0i9&utm_medium=ios Now, I am not associated with Denis, But he and I did communicate after I released the video. Regarding, his claim there was no pandemic, I’ve never perceived his position that there wasn’t a pathogen floating around, it just that it wasn’t the driver of death, and that the deaths that did occur, weren’t at a level that could be consisted a “pandemic.” His work is very telling and well worth a look. And in my opinion none of it conflicts with Jessica’s valuable and important work! If fact, “Jessica you are awesome!!”
The problem is, there can be "man made" viruses modified in a lab, but that they were never successful in creating one that successfully thrived and spread outside of a lab.
I agree with your first point that I don't accept something because someone tells me to. Throughout this pandemic we were told early and often there was a novel virus, it was spreading and deadly to everyone. And all evidence was to the contrary around us. But we were told this narrative 24/7. If there was a dangerous novel pathogen, wouldn't we have seen existence of it before March 13th Lockdown call. The only major evidence many of us knew was the restrictions and what was on TV and radio and other mainstream media.
2. It denies people's personal experience and what comes with that.
The problem here is, the majority of people's "experience" is tainted by the 24/7 media assault on them saying there was a "dangerous novel virus." To this day, people are reporting their cold and flu symptoms in posts as if this means something. We have been hammered with "this is important, deadly, significant" for four years. So "personal experience" will be cloudy. Can anyone who was not exposed to the MSM and requisite restrictions in their area of the world honestly say that their experience was not tainted to some degree by the barrage of information surrounding the "pandemic?"
This is like saying "There must be a pandemic, they shut down all the restaurants (without drive thrus) in my area and i see people wearing masks in the grocery store."
3. So they found the "spike protein" recipe in what is being defined as SARs and also the injection. What is it based on? When they isolated and cultured the original virus in an "infected sample" did they also run a control on an "uninfected sample?" Were artifacts that have been asserted as "viruses" also cultured and isolated from uninfected samples?
The hubris here is thinking that what was found means anything.
In my experience I saw no signs of serious illness in anyone. Very few heavy colds even. Seen lots of death and serious afflictions in the jabbed. In my life it all made what I was doing even more challenging - negotiating around the 'measures' in lockdown madness arranging essential care, nightmare shopping queues, shut trades etc and trying to have sensible level headed conversations about, well, anything. Lost paranoid friends and made some fabulous new ones. Never wore a mask, never did anything different, never sick, never tested, ferociously fought idiotic 'medics' to keep relatives unstabbed, days of my life spent doing that..... but seriously bored with it all then and looking at the results and the psycho and health damage and control, now. I do wonder how 'they' would cope with something genuinely serious?
I knew of two people who allegedly died "with Covid" during the pandemic. Both were elderly and had pre existing medical conditions. One guy at karaoke had cOPD and could not even, at times, finish a song, and this was pre pandemic. Another guy had his issues as well, I think it was something to do with his liver. Stands to reason, they died "with" and not "of" Covid.
I don't have many outlets for sensible conversation. Most of my interactions on twitter devolve into ad hominem quickly, and the most entertaining part is when they explain to me that "it's not ad hominem, you idiot."
I wish I could say I never wore a mask, but Uber rides, doctor's waiting rooms, and hospitals made it so it was not true.
"I wish I could say I never wore a mask, but Uber rides, doctor's waiting rooms, and hospitals made it so it was not true."
I am proud to say I Never covered my face, despite numerous hospital and doctor visits during that time. Nobody in the hospitals even questioned it with even a look. One doctor visit ended up with them frog marching me out and drawing blood from me in the car park because I wouldn't cover my face. But I NEVER yielded to their ridiculous rules and went proudly bare faced. Standing up for myself and showing others that it could be done was huge. Difficult at times, and I got attacked for it, but such an important thing for me I took all that rather than submit.
I have to say though how disappointing it was to see SO many sensible folk 'going along to get along'. More than disappointing, it makes me sad to the core.
I was not a visitor, but rather a patient, and was (arbitrary and capricious) told to wear a mask out in the corridors the few time I was out of my room. Yet I was unmasked, in my room, with the door open on numerous occasions. My price for compliance was my hospitalization and follow up treatments.
The spectrum of PPE I was introduced to was also interesting. One nurse wore both a mask and face shield. I could barely understand her. I was thinking maybe they should erect a lucite barrier around me like a giant lava lamp and I could stick my arms though small openings to get blood work taken and receive foods and meds.
I would say my not wearing a mask was 99.8% effective, but for those few hours of Uber rides, and hour to two hour visits to doctor's offices, those were not my best moments.
However, when I voted in 2020, I was the only person at the one Georgia voting spot during my interval of time voting who did so not wearing a mask.
The cool thing is, you can disagree, and we will continue to disagree on this. You assert in your comment that two amino acids were found that do not occur in nature.Have the powers that be properly tested everything in nature? Show to me that all the flora and fauna have been mapped and completely measured.
And then there is this:
" That specific pairing is used in virology research for this exact reason; if you are trying to find out if something can be passed through in an experiment (since viruses cannot live independently all such research inherently must pass the virus through some sort of living tissue) you use this as a marker since it never happens naturally."
See the problem here is that there were not proper controls during the initial isolating and culturing phase of a virus. So the "amino acids" are found when the question of "is this actually a virus we isolated" is still at question. You say that "it is not natural" and my response is "is this even a virus we are testing here?"
You claim that it is. Show me with uninfected specimens treated in the same fashion as the isolation and culturing phase that is subjected to "infected samples" that similar or identical results are not possible.
Also, it is completely possible that someone lets out of a lab a limited form of something that is transmissible with these markers. But again, does that mean anything?
"Have the powers that be properly tested everything in nature"
That is a strawman of the highest order. All of science is not absolute, as science is always open to further observations. To use such a statement is meaningless, as it is a given and applies to every single observation, scientific or otherwise. There is always a new test, a bigger microscope, a new w/l used to observe, etc....
Yes, it is a virus being tested, and the genetic research markings were found.
You then ask a very broad question, does it mean anything. Yes, it means a great deal and the harms of the man made GOF virus are observed in scientific studies around the world.
How is it a straw man to ask this question? It's not a logical fallacy. If you say "these amino acids do not exist in nature" this speaks of a certainty. A better way of putting it would be "these amino acids to date have not existed in this sequence naturally." Based on both the policies and studies during this time, far less is certain than more.
"Yes, it is a virus being tested, and the genetic research markings were found."
Except we don't know if it is a virus being tested. There have been studies conducted where they have taken non infected samples and placed them under the same culturing and isolating conditions and have resulted in...what can be seen as HIV, measles, and Covid. How do you explain that?
Uninfected samples also have the Covid virus in them. Does this mean that even the uninfected cells were actually infected?
You say there are great harms of the GOF virus itself, but where? I suggest it is in the iatrogenic treatments early on, as well as the unintended other consequences of scaring a large portion of the global population into thinking they were constantly being subjected to a "novel deadly disease."
And then of course, we have the result of the experimental injection.
I never said it was a logical fallacy. I pointed out that it (the chance for a new or improved observation) is universally true of all science, so an overbroad generaltiy not cogent to current specific evidence. Please read the Jo Nova link, we do know it is a virus being tested. https://jessicar.substack.com/p/on-the-there-was-no-pandemic-subject/comment/64417907
Yes, and I gave leads for you to follow if you choose, plus my personal story with regard to my wife. There are literally hundreds, if not thousands of papers. As to the vaccine, I never discounted it in the least, as it is worse.
The strawman argument is a logical fallacy. The strawman is essentially bringing up an argument that wasn't originally stated. In terms of "is this or aint this a pandemic" it is very germane that the germs/viruses be properly isolated. So it isn't a logical fallacy to ask the question.
The problem is, the evidence is not in yet. If you tell me this is a "man made" virus, but the original virus was not properly isolated and cultured, then how can it be true? One could take what they thought was a "naturally occurred virus" and then modify it, but if the original artifact was not a virus, then what have we modified here?
I also find it interesting that the "proof" you have are links to other comments you make.
I am not saying that viruses aren't real. I am saying that what they may be isolating and culturing is not a virus.
"We can only make copies of viruses by putting them in cells which use all the same chemical elements and much of the same coding and proteins. Separating out the viruses from 100,000 similar chemicals to get purity is possible but expensive and scientifically pointless."
Except it isn't pointless if you do the same process without having an infected sample and the results are the same or similar. So, yes, it is expensive but it is also far from pointless.
No one is saying viruses aren't real. What I am saying is that if the same process of isolation renders similar to identical results, then how can that be a virus?
People did get sick in 2020 as they did since time immemorial. No one is denying that. That they caught something and spread it to others is not also to debate here. But, was it novel? Was it deadly? What if those who "tested positive" were treated instead as if they had a cold or a flu, would all of them had met the same bad outcome?
My final comment would be this: I try really hard never to 'inject' my own beliefs onto others because inherently I know that it would always be impossible to successfully do that anyway. We all have entirely unique experiences and existences. I am not trying to argue one way or another on anything but that. My MO: Believe what you want, but don't try to force me to believe what you believe.
Totally agree with you now. Back in 2020, I did attempt to educate my family, friends, even acquaintances on the benefits of maintaining a healthy immune system. I failed miserably! I forgot that most people look for easy fixes.
In 2021, I asked them to just use common sense and a bit of critical thinking ( why trust an organization that has no liability for their product) ? Again, I failed!
“ you can take a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink”!
At least I can stand proud and never comply!
But you can salt their oats :) .... that will encourage a slurp at least.
Cute!
Spot on Jessica
You cannot impose your beliefs even though they are logical. There are too many stupid people in the world who would embrace their ignorance and quite possibly as proof, wipe their derrieres with wet toilet paper. Yet these same would reject the reality of a CYSTem imposed fake jab presented as an "experimental vaccine" and suffer the consequences. The average IQ is dropping exponentially.
Meanwhile I love/cherish intelligent women and cannot nor do not care to suppress that tendency. It is a simple adoption of an essay decades ago in MC2 mag titled praise excellence by Isaac Isamov. From that point at 24 years of age I did so and will continue,. Lots of intelligent conservative gals here.
keg - Not sure why you brought up sex here regarding intelligence. Very strange.
Hmmmmm. Brought up sex? Doubt it but you did and it is indeed strange. To enlarge, love is not sex. Cherishment is not sex. My closest friend for the last 29 years has been and is/was an abused woman who tore holes in my heart as I listened to her true story of what she had suffered. We have been close all that time and she was blunt one day after we became more comfie with each the other. She asked me if I knew why she cherished me and wanted me as her closest friend and did not wait for me to answer but said to me starring at me with her big brown eyes searching my soul that "I love you because you never tried to put your hands down the front of my pants like every other "male" had.
Sex? This is the most inner and outer beautiful girl in the world and after 29 years neither I nor her have tried to take liberties with the other. It is far stronger than a sexual relationship could ever be and while everything on me works, she trusts me totally and feels "protected" and safe when she is with me in abandoned ghost towns, old silver mines, and trails in the middle of nowhere and on mountain passes where there is nobody for miles.
She once told me "there is nobody like you Edward" and I asked her was that meant to be good or bad. I have met but one man in my whole life who understood the relationship she and I have as he is the only other man who has the same thing with a woman as well.
To interact beyond propriety would destroy the closeness she and I have and the closeness is far stronger and warmer than any sexual element could equate to. Love is not MADE in bed. Real love is made by interactive understanding, cherishing and respect. It is not physical but spiritual. She has women acquaintances who are jealous of what she has with me. I baby her in hopes of alleviating her pain and helping her forget the hurt she suffered from. I love that girl too much to ever think about desecrating her and her affection towards me in what women know as emotional intimacy is immense and intense.
Few know that and even fewer practice that. And for the record, there are now 8 women of all ages in my life who all wanted me to be their friend and most of them were abused and abandoned. It is truly a broken world filled with broken people. Many are women and they do not need nor want sex, they want understanding, cherishment and respect. And to the last one they get that from me and love me for it.
Nuff said.
Huh?! By ‘sex’ I was referring to gender. Because you mentioned cherishing ‘intelligent women’. I’ve no idea what you’re talking about here.
Due to the feedback I get about my personal life as a friend to several women, ALL comments I get from my gender have to do with "fringe" benefits I get. The referential topic has to do with sex and there are women clients whose husbands decease and their neighbors boldly ask for sex in exchange for their services like cutting grass, snow shovelling, etc.
It seems to be all about sex and everyone assumes a friendship with a woman will end up in the bedroom. Not so, at least in my case.
So you triggered me but it is not your fault, and I am touchy on the subject. I do wonder why you did not use the word, "gender" instead of sex but word usage to me is critical in discussions with clients that do go to delicate places. One therefore must be precise.
At any rate, you have been the recipient of a part of my life many are not aware of but the more the news travels the more requests I get and I well understand why women want a man in their lives they can call on for help or to discuss serious concerns.
But to answer your query, I referred to intelligence by way of my over three decades of being in business and dealing primarily with women noting that women have the nobler character traits and the greater capacity to intellectual ability. Take Dr. J. And I will throw in a sexist comment for the "halibut," She is a lot easier to look at than a man. and her unassuming way of rattling off facts breaks my mind. Intelligent gals are sooooooo attractive.
That is a highlight of Substack. The women are so acutely sharp mentally.
Any more questions fire away.
I don’t think this issue is about ‘injecting’ beliefs. You and Denis are both scientists, so if one feels the other is forcing his/her beliefs on the other (s), the best way to deal with this challenge and reject those beliefs is to do science as this is not religion we are talking about here. Science is about inference. You are both very familiar with the scientific method, right?
Ask a question.
Construct a hypothesis.
Test your hypothesis by doing an experiment.
Analyze your data and draw a conclusion.
Communicate your findings to others.
BTW: I’m not sure I’m the only one who got the impression you attempt to defend your position in this post that may be at odds with the emerging evidence provided not only by Denis. I also find you statement quite odd:
”3. some kind of man-made sequence of nucleotides encoding something nasty called spike protein is in both the original recipe chicken SARS-2, and apparently, in the injections themselves.”
Some kind of man-mad sequence…apparently found in the injections? I think we both have enough evidence to doubt this very much the western blots submitted to many health agencies by Pfizer look really fake…
You worry about you career and the future that can be jeopardized by your public statements… I think we all understand that. Some of us lost our jobs, families, friends, funding, lots of money because of the stand we had taken. It was painful be but we sleep well at night with peace of mind. It is a gratifying feeling…
Fake western blots are evidence of fraud. They are not evidence of the nonexistence of man-made nucleotide sequences or anything else... barring maybe the ethics of the Pfizer Corporation.
Just because there are man-made sequences it doesn’t mean they are going to code for anything, like a spike protein or any protein. Even if they do code for some protein (s), it doesn’t mean they are going to be dangerous to the host cell or the organism…
Eukaryotic cells misfold proteins all the time but they get recycled…
Yes... Rancourt's argument is that anyone who knows about COVID misdeeds -- from iatrocide, to nudge units, to number fudging, to forced injections -- must conclude that there was no novel pathogen. Anyone who doesn't, is impugned as stupid.
But a conclusion is not a fact. It's an interpretation, and depending on how strongly it's cherished by its bearer, can range from hypothesis to judgement to belief to dogma.
There are mountains of evidence supporting the existence of a pathogenic, likely engineered, SARS-CoV2 spike protein. I hear no rational debunking of this evidence from the "no novel pathogen" camp. What I hear instead from folks in this camp, when faced with this evidence, is stuff like, "It's just a myth!". Based on this response, I have to rate the "no novel pathogen" camp as residing in the belief or dogma territory. It sometimes almost presents as religion.
SMS - I think most people are unaware of the big picture, and the magnitude, regarding bioweapons labs throughout the world. I also think many people aren’t willing or able to accept it, because it’s so horrible.
Yes. It is the national practice here in Canuckistan for people to stick their heads in the ground with their asses jacked high that can be easily kicked with a steel toed boot. CANUCKISTAN IS A NATION OF druggees, weed, alcoholics, and other substance abuse dweebs, who vote for turdo and ignore his excesses.
Less than 1/3 of us voted for him though, so don't paint us all with the same brush. Canada is also a nation of strong, independent minded, intelligent human beings just like every other country. I know that because I'm one of them.
_ but you are in the minority.
WE are in the minority. That's always the case. Everywhere. The majority are followers because that's how our subconscious minds are programmed in order to keep us safely in the herd. But I don't believe there are fewer druggies, alcoholics and substance abusers in the US or any other Western country. That's thanks to the powers that shouldn't be who have encouraged drug use through lax laws and media programming. Though Canadians are maybe a little too "polite" for our own good, if you remember, the truckers' convoy started here in Canada and this became a way to protest mandates and unfair government interventions that's still being used today globally.
I do not have a dog in the fight because I have accepted that ai Don have a way to verify either side of the argument but I thought the fairly recent debate between Steve kirsch and Andrew Kaufman was quite interesting. You might listen to it for a better understanding of the “no virus” perspective. I thought Kaufman made some excellent arguments about some basic accepted principles of viral science that may be erroneous.
Thanks for the tip, I'll take a listen.
I too avoid getting into the "no virus" debate. Partly because I'm not a biologist, and partly because it's an unneccessary rabbithole that distracts from the main issue.
That's why I talk about the protein, rather than the virus.
There's plenty of strong evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein exists, and is a novel and likely engineered pathogen. Whether it's delivered via virus or Pfizer trojan horse mRNA injection, is not the central issue. We have the same problem regardless.
It occurs to me that some of the thought leaders who try to lead us down this path, may be trying to distract us from the central problem.
Quote; "I....avoid getting into the "no virus" debate......because it's an unneccessary rabbithole that distracts from the main issue"
Hmmm? The main issue is that in 2020 the whole world was shut down & then propagandized to take an injection to "protect" against a "virus" that has not been proven to exist.
Next quote; "There's plenty of strong evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein exists"
Links please....anyway where is proof that SARS-Cov-2 exists?
Next quote; "and is a novel and likely engineered pathogen"
Hmm? Pathogen you say, a quick search reveals; Pathogen,
[ˈpaθədʒ(ə)n] noun, a bacterium, virus, or other microorganism that can cause disease.
Where is the proof that microorganisms are pathogenic? Bearing in mind the following definitions;
Infectious [in-ˈfek-shə] adjective, resulting from an infection with one or more pathogenic agents.
Infection [ɪnˈfɛkʃ(ə)n] noun, the process of infecting or the state of being infected by an infectious disease.
Contagion [kənˈteɪdʒ(ə)n] noun, the communication of disease from one person to another.
So... how would this pathogenic "protein" propogate, i.e. pass from person to person? Pray tell.
0f course not forgetting this list of failed contagion studies compiled by Jacob Diaz.
https://theendofcovid.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/A-LIST-OF-FAILED-CONTAGION-STUDIES.pdf
How to Make the Perfect Spike Protein Surprise à la Fraudulent Flambé
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Instructions:
1. Prepare the base: Begin by gently detaching your murine fibroblast cells with Trypsin, ensuring they stay intact and content. Once detached, immerse them in a nutrient-rich medium spiked with penicillin-streptomycin to keep unwanted bacteria at Bay Watch.
Add a generous helping of fetal bovine serum to enrich the medium, giving the cells a luxurious environment for the ‘spike protein’ to birth from. Everything is a toxin depending on the dose. But just the right amount of Trypsin works miracles in a crowning achievement!
2. Induce Cytopathic Effects: Let the cells soak up the ingredients until they exhibit those characteristic CPEs, signalling they’re ready for the next culinary step.
3. Prepare the Supernatant: Carefully clarify your cell culture supernatant. To balance the flavors, mix in 0.9% NaCl.
For the pièce de résistance, add a half volume of 30% polyethylene glycol. This will precipitate your ‘viral’ and hence ‘spike protein’ particles beautifully, creating a rich, thick texture.
4. Concentrate and Radiolabel: Centrifuge the mixture to concentrate the particles. Once done, add a pinch of Uridine and amino acids, then gently stir in some detergent to release the particles from their cellular confines.
5. Separate the Proteins: Now, it’s time for SDS-PAGE. Pour your mixture into the gel, and season with additional treatment-mixture chemicals. Charge it under high voltage for 4 hours, ensuring perfect protein separation.
6. Label and ‘Detect:’ Garnish with theoretical antibodies, crafted with care, to label your proteins. Be sure to claim the particles observed were the ones you sought – no proper controls needed here!
7. Prepare for Presentation: Plate ample servings of your purified glycoprotein on carbon-coated Formvar-covered 400-mesh copper grids. Finish with a delicate stain of 2% phosphotungstic acid at pH 7.2.
8. Serve with a Smile: Finally, present your dish with a smile. Garnish with arrows and labels to declare whatever suits your fancy.
Voila! Presenting our signature dish: “Spike Protein Surprise à la Fraudulent Flambé" – a culinary masterpiece ready for the prettiest EM pic!
Très bonne chef, votre cordon bleu est magnifique
Please pin your name to one paper proving the existence of SARS COV 2. Did the team poison cell cultures with antibiotics to induce cytopathic effects, claim a virus caused cell breakdown, and run no control?? Just one from the mountain of evidence will do. Shouldn‘‘t be too difficult.
Calm down Factsinator. I specifically said "protein" not "virus" in order to avoid a fruitless dialog like the one you may wish to pursue.
If you really want to know more about the spike _protein_ and how it's encoded in the mRNA vaxxes, which seems to me to be pretty good evidence for its existence, try the Nepetalactone Newsletter. It's actually pretty fascinating. Just ignore the virus parts if you like. There's no virus in the jabs, but they're sure enough going to get spike protein all over your body if you take one.
Here's a good article where the author compares the DNA to make the mRNA to make the spike, for Pfizer vs. Moderna, showing where the encoding for spike lies in the manufacturing DNA: https://anandamide.substack.com/p/sequencing-of-bivalent-moderna-and
If I recall correctly, the guy makes gene sequencing equipment. He was calibrating one of his machines by using the Pfizer vaccine as a reference (which, by the way, he could do because the spike protein molucular structure is published, and he was able to use this specification to calibrate off of, which seems to indicate that it's real). Anyway, this led him to find a lot of dirty Pfizer secrets. And then Moderna. Several other scientists have independently reproduced his findings.
And if you really want to know about the pathology of the spike protein, try https://wmcresearch.substack.com. Tons of research there. Pick out what you like, get mad at the rest if you like.
Or google for papers and videos by several German pathologists (Schirmacher, Burkhardt, Lang) who present their autopsy findings for post-vaccine deaths. Spoiler: spike protein is involved. These documents aren't all in one place, but here's one link I found to get you started: https://pathologie-konferenz.de/en/
There is much more but I'm done going down this rabbit hole. Enjoy!
Is this a fair general criticism of ‘spike protein’ studies ? The “proteins” observed in EM images arise from unpurified cell culture processes, where numerous substances are added, and nothing is isolated. For a protein to be featured in a study, it undergoes quite a complex journey. It’s quite a stretch to believe that the particles depicted in heavily altered, dead, and fixed states truly reflect actual biological processes. They are merely artefacts of the extensive processes used to achieve the final results.
You are talking to McKernan fan.
Did SMS find a particle in this study? Fan Wu? Nope.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2008-3
They printed out a genome, no virus was found. It says in English in the first paragraph, "Metagenomic RNA sequencing [COMPUTER ASSEMBLY] of a sample of bronchoalveolar lavage fluid (BALF) [NOT FROM A VIRUS] from the patient [NOT MANY PATIENTS AND NO CONTROL] identified a new RNA virus strain".
They will continue to deflect and not answer your questions.
Others try the Bacteriophage Angle. They have VIRUS in its definition, so therefore it is one! No Sorry. Those are Bacteria Eaters and do exist and are everywhere, but are phagocytes (in Humans), and could be misclassified on purpose.
Edit: https://substack.com/@controlstudies/note/c-64540308
I think you are applying a hypothesis about virus studies, to protein studies. These are very different things.
A protein is not a biological process, it's a molecule. It is used by biological processes. It is not dead, any more than my table is dead -- because it was never alive.
Hello, before I look into the links please could you lemme know what you mean by a spike protein? I ask because if none of the “coronaviruses” (ranging in size from 60 to 150 nm) have ever been properly purified, isolated, and separated from everything else in order to be independently studied, the much smaller surface spikes of the “virus” (ranging from 9 to 12 nm) have also never been properly purified and isolated in order to be independently studied.
Well, I'm not sure here, but as I understand the technical "no virus" argument, there is no claim that we can't know what a protein is. I think the argument is that we've only isolated pieces of what are called viruses, but we've never seen a whole intact "virus".
Well, the pieces of a hypothetical virus would be proteins.
Proteins are just long chain molecules. They are not alive, they do not attempt to reproduce themselves. Proteins are extremely important to many biological processes and have been under intense study for 300 years. In animals, plants, funghi, and some single-celled life, proteins are encoded by RNA, which is encoded by DNA in the cell nucleus (unless you take the jab, LOL). RNA is translated into protein by little protein factories in our cells called ribosomes. The wikipedia article on proteins actually seems to be a good introduction (it must not be a political topic; hasn't been subjected to propaganda edits.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein
Anyway, to your point, seems like it would actually be much harder to properly purify and isolate a more complex thing (eg, an entire "virus") than a simpler thing (eg, a protein). Rather than easier as you suggest.
Thank you for your honest interest.
Hello! So, your answer is, "No! I don't have evidence of an isolated spike protein even though its much smaller than a theoretical 'virus'."
Sorry, I'm still not clear what you mean by spike protein. Please could you clarify. Do you believe spike proteins are present on the SARS COV2 ‘virus?‘ Also, could you cite a study that claims to have isolated a spike protein. It would be greatly appreciated.
Hello, it seems that several notable health agencies don't have evidence of a spike protein:
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/CDC-spike-antibodies-why-Vero-etc-PACKAGE-redacted.pdf
Greetings and Best Wishes,
March 2, 2023: U.S. Centers for Disease Control can't prove the existence of "SARS-COV-2 spike protein"
Roger Andoh, acting as FOIA Officer in the Office of the Chief Operating Officer, CDC and Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, confessed that these institutions have zero proof of the existence of the alleged "SARS-COV-2 spike protein", this time to my colleague Louis Stephen.
Also, in this response, Roger evaded:
- a request for proof of claims regarding so-called "SARS-COV-2" antibodies,
- a request for documentation explaining why it's necessary to use synthetic rather than natural (alleged) mRNA in convid jabs,
- a request for documentation explaining why it's necessary to use monkey kidney cells to (allegedly but not really) grow a "virus" that supposedly infects human lungs, etc.:
That is the odd part here: the need to beat a dead horse here with what are ultimately only opinions...even if carefully considered ones.
Ranacourt and others discount the observations of some really astute clinicians who were on the front lines and who felt that they were seeing a novel virus. could they have been wrong? Of course they could have been. But they had access to experience and raw data and judgement that he clearly did NOT have. He should not so easily dismiss that.
I'm on the fence. I just read that a Slovakian investigation into the covid-era concluded with no true pandemic ever occured. But I can't locate the paper and don't read slovak so what do I know. I think it would be very beneficial for you and Denis to have a sit down and put in on one of the safer platforms. What exactly does he mean by no pandemic - is he refuting the virus completely? It would be good to see an adult conversation among friends with intelligent questions and answers.
I'm not sure that a belief CAN be "forced" upon another, if ones paradigm is buttressed with proof of truth. Oh, sure, it is consistently attempted for selfish reasons, but once the truth is discovered, it is almost impossible to dislodge. There is ONE thing that I will admit to here, however, and that is that ones SENSES, when invoked, tend to act as "proof" and is a stimulus for a change of mind. The devil knows that, and has used, and WILL use that tactic, since it has been so very effective to his cause.
Just a bit of "truth" for the record.
God bless all who agree. God bless all who do not!
In the spirit of Brotherly Love,
R
And to add to that, "diversion" which is what we have lots of.
I think the psychopaths are not only among us but are in charge, in fact it’s one of our fundamental flaws as a society to let emotionally pathological people be successful and gain power.
Stupid is a reality that leftist politically correct morns try to mate with.
To an extent, it is exactly those who seek "success" and "power." They give themselves away very early on...
Your comment to Denis is loaded with good Scorpio energy.
Denis is an Aries. That impatience of his tweet (which I share) is Aries energy. This clashes with Scorpio energy, which, among many other things, is the opposite of impatience.
However, while you are correct that both ideas are not necessarily mutually excluding, the non-existence is sufficient to the no-pandemic claim, and the no-pandemic claim is sufficient to argue that if there was ever a virus, it was nothing at all what we were told.
Lastly, the permanent economic disaster and cultural chaos and epidemic of mental disorders, as well as the utter ransacking of everything adds weight to the claim that there was no-virus at all, but it was a very useful theatrical prop to facilitate the power grab and the monetary grab.
Also, mentally ill people are easier to handle. And everyone else is burdened with them, so the gap between the social classes becomes wider. And the cultural chaos makes all sorts of crimes far more easier, like wars. Protection and security have become a luxury these days.
Geopolitics is a bitch!
great comment! i dated an Aries once. it didn't work out. :D lol
He was probably too stupid for you. You would be difficult to follow with your intelligence but were I 100 years younger, I expect I could humor your emotional side and gain your favor. You possess a high IQ, perhaps in the top 1%. If you are not married I know you realize a transparent trustworthy man is essential to your happiness.
lol
Great deflection
I agree 100% with Edward and if you are not with a partner it's only because you have a greater purpose in life and when you got that for destiny, you have to be alone. You are an amazing woman Jessica Rose and don't you ever change. You are meant to save the world. You don't have time for a partner. That's why you are a high energy body. I'm curious about your numerology now LOL. A 9, or a master number for sure. Kids in our days with these numbers are classified as ADHD or whatever. They are high energy kids that just can't stay in place because they need to be occupy by doing things, discovering and so on and if this does not happen! They become destructive because they're feeling lost without proper guidance and help them exercise lots. In my younger time I would have probably be classified as an ADHD kid. Good I was a lot in sports and all kind of activities. It made my life easier instead and... healthier. Diet is also important.
In the beginning, I could grok that the shots were no good. Then that they lied to us about proper treatment. From there, various sacred cows died, Like the JFK assassination and 9/11. Then I got to know of Denis, and there went the pandemic. Somewhere in there I lost the moon landing. And I wanted to be an astronaut when I was a kid! Now I am reading two well researched books on the existence of viruses Called, "Virus Mania "by Torsten Engelbrecht, and "Can you Catch a Cold" by Daniel Roytas.
We all reach our perception of the truth at differing speeds, so it's reasonable to be gracious when dealing with others who are at differing stages. The faster ones look crazy to the slower ones. You don't want to get too far out ahead of these things.
That being said, it is critical that we understand that we did NOT see a raging pandemic caused by a virus in 2020, according to Prof Rancourt's excellent work that looks at the one statistic that cannot be faked, All Cause Mortality.
As long as we all understand that they cannot PCR us into fear that leads to all the horrors we saw, we're good.
Jessica, are you aware of any paper(s) that actually isolated and purified the SARS COV 2 virus, showed electron micrographs of whole virions, Characterized their genetics and then infected some animal with these to cause the disease, then used that animal to sicken another?
When you are one step ahead of the masses you are considered a genius. When you are two steps ahead you are considered a lunatic.
I think I heard Andrew Wilkow use this saying many times.
We did manage to have an unusual URI going around the winter before the vaxxes came out. On pain of sounding gross, my experience when I caught the damned thing on March 2nd, 2020 was that it began as a dry cough then followed as a productive cough, producing stringy phlegm that behaved like rubber cement. Reading some data out of Italy that 70% of their diagnosed COVID fatalities had pre-existing hypertension, I self-treated with noodles, rice, chicken bullion and raw garlic as a soup. The garlic helped with social distancing as anyone who came to the door smelled it and when I told them "it's COVID" quickly fled my doorstep. (Some poor alliophobes probably now conflate garlic breath with COVID infection thanks to me, but the space between coughs was brief and I had no urge to waste it on speeches). However, garlic is a cheap nonprescription aid for lowering blood pressure, so I ate garlic, guzzled water, went totally off caffeine, and had pain in my ribs from each cough for six entire weeks, and kept bringing up stringy phlegm. 30 years previously I had viral pneumonia from a Type A flu, and it kept relapsing over 4 months but was not as difficult as the 2020 virus.
So I'll happily speak to the existence of an unique infection, to which I earned natural immunity by harboring it for six weeks. Whether it had spike proteins I have no idea...I lived in Michigan back then and did not have contacts at the Arizona Microscopy Alliance who could have mounted it, sputtered on a layer of graphene, pumped down the vacuum chamber and shot a Scanning Electron Micrograph of the damned things.
Different stages, yeah.
Also, different motivations.
Astrology? Really?
No, not really.
For me, it’s something artistic. It’s funny to find coincidences. For example, Taurus people are all about material things and disregard spiritual things. That happens a lot. Or Capricorn and their obsession with being prepared and follow the rules. Or the Leo people, and how almost every situation can become a party for them.
Makes as much as any other religion.
To me, the idea that a group of stars dozens to hundreds of light years away from Earth causes one of every twelve people to be similar in any way based on what time of year they were born is absurd. I am confident that none of the babies born within a few weeks of me in the same small geographical area (and still alive as adults) is anything like me, and that their differences are as widely distributed as can be expected for a small sample of the human beings on Earth.
I do not put stock in astrology but for the record am Gemini.
From an astrology site: “Gemini people have the gift of changing between a hundred different personalities.”
Does it sound like you?
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I am possessed of the ability to change midstream from a crybaby listening to an abused woman and breaking as she tore huge holes in my heart to converting as I did in the same scenario to one who can and does become rough and hates with a passion. I am sure any who have followed my comments already know that having seen the soft side and the rough side of me they are aware of that reality and that abused woman who broke me as I listened to things that had happened to her has been my best friend for 29 years uninterrupted but always attuned in mind, soul and spirit to each the other in a secure, friendship where she gets respect, cherishment and understanding from me as the ONLY person she ever trusted.
Those are the two predominant auras I possess and she and I refer to our close friendship as the Eagles Titled song, "Peaceful Easy Feeling."
Good listener, then.
Many women tell me that. Many more regard me as "sooooooo bad" based on the reality of my hatred for corruption and injustice that now has driven me to the OIPRD to take down or at least expose some criminal and crooked cops.
I am all in. My target list is five OPP with four being in high levels. Plus two dopey and corrupt biased JP's, two corrupt bureaucraps, and perhaps detachment commanders going back at least two decades.
Yes I am a good listener but also a problem solver but my "forte" has been and is abused women. I get calls from time to time from them to take them out to discuss issues. These are smart women, and there are some I am beneficient with who have little money. Not trusting a man they still want one in their lives and I guess it is me.
But back to the corruption.
How about an OPP already dumped but after four years of collecting his pay after raping a drunken woman and taking pictures of her. My personal targets are in violation of the CCC, Charter Rights, OPP Promise, and B of R. Multiple criminal violations. Their problem is they did not pick a sheeple.
The USA in my experience has great officers...state troopers, local city police, etc that I find amenable and deserving of my respect. Up here in Canuckistan it is not so.
But why one or the other? Why not economic disaster, cultural chaos, mental disorders, ransacking of everything AND a virus to keep it real? Not deadly as they claimed. Because they grow em so why not use em? (I'm a Taurus, so whatever your answer I will stubbornly believe what I like ... but then again, that's most of us!)
I claim that a ghost virus is easier to control than a real virus.
The problem of you people (the Taurus) is that you really need your Moon in a good aspect, or you won't see the fraudsters coming.
I see. I say that's what the PCR test was for. Dial it up or down as needed.
Moon's also in Taurus, as are several planets. Didn't see them coming but recognized them when they arrived. Didn't care what anyone said, wasn't wearing a mask or taking a jab because made no sense and... stubborn. Pisces husband thought I was nuts. Figured it out before it was too late though for which I'm grateful.
lol! there goes the theory down the drain!
Life experience (and did I mention stubbornness?) cannot be underestimated as contributing factors 😉. Enjoy your day!
thank you! you too!
Loss of smell, like some many other of the horrors of Covid, is not new, not unique to Covid. A coworker I knew before the panic had lost his sense of smell many years prior to our meeting from a common cold. It sucks, but it happens and not just from covid. I chalk it up to the same sort of thing they did with the fact that there was no cure for covid. That is true of all viral diseases. All we can do is replenish the bodies arsenal of nutrients etc. It expends as it fights off the viral infection, drink lots of fluids and get plenty of sleep and take symptom relieving medications. But they hyped the fact that it is untreatable and most took this to mean that this was unique to Covid.
Whether there is or isn’t a SARS cov 2 virus and whether or not it causes anything and whether or not it is new or been with us for millennia, we would never have known it existed without the “testing”. The fact that testing was done differently for Covid than for all other diseases, especially epidemic and pandemic ones, indicates that this is at least in part, a testing driven pandemic.
Nicely said Jess. People who feel the need to impose their view on others by force rather than argument are de facto abhorrent. We know that many of them are playing a role and others are getting sucked in. Those who are genuine need to avoid becoming the monsters they claimed to be fighting.
agreed. i feel more and more that the monster of greed and fame and money and power might be ensnaring a lot of people (not pointing to anyone in particular here) who might have once been somewhat immune to these things.
What a fearless warrior you are Jessica.
Never ever change you clever badass wave surfing flamenco dancing Canadian scientist you. 👏👏👏
Just paid this post forward to a new "online buddy" who may not have ever heard of you or the work you've dedicated much of your waking hours to for the past 3 something years.
And?
You're a "Cat Lady" but not much of a people person to boot? Bloody legend! ♥️
"Love you long time" dear Jessica Rose. 🌹
Coincidentally: I mentioned "Scorpios" during an online back & forth email chat yesterday, with my newish friend in the "Great Blue Beyond". And here you are. 😉
If you're at all interested in that sorta stuff (I'm interested in all kinds of stuff. A dabbler if you will...) look into your "complementary sign" Jess. If Scorpio, your ideal "love match" would be Taurus. ♥️
Mine would be Capricorn.
Only ever found one. That was well over 40 years ago now, but he nimbly sprinted off before I was able to discover if any of that astrological stuff is true... 😉
We touched upon money too.
It might well talk, "but it can't sing and dance and it can't walk..."
Cheers!
Does the idea of imposing views include intentionally misleading people by calling decades old mRNA TRANSFECTIONS vaccines when syringe delivery is only thing in common?
Why say no loss of smell stories? It wasn’t just smell, because that would allow for at least some taste. It was all taste. Never experienced that before in my life. What is that, psychological? I got no other symptoms they said I’d get, save a fever. And extremely bloodshot eyes, which I never read about. Ivermectin wiped it out in a day., unless that was psychological too.
i also lost my smell for the first time in my life. it was terrifying.
You’ve never lost smell with an ordinary cold? Seriously?
I think people forget about what it used to be like having a bad cold, because they have been told this is a 'new' symptom if a 'new' deadly whatever. Give it a fancy label and oooooh . ... Job done.
Oh, I recall. So "stuffed up" with snot (sorry) I couldn't breath through my nose, much less smell through it.
She could always smell everything, even with heavy congestion and a zinc deficiency. No data given other than Feels. Terrifying Feels. When one must explain the unknown, use a big adjective.
Not being able to breathe is terrifying… loss of smell? I’m going to say not so much
No I haven't
I lost taste/smell 48 hrs, but over 2 years also had altered smell perceptions - could smell mouldy mushrooms whilst cooking, and sometimes out of the house. Weird, and unpleasant!
But that of course lessens your ability to detect the stench of hypocrisy that gags the proverbial maggot subsistent in leftist looner.
I lost my sense of smell about 20 years ago. I think it happened gradually as I didn’t notice it. We have Bradbury trees in the south of the US and everyone says they stink but I couldn’t smell them. Then I noticed I couldn’t identify coffee, peanut butter, cinnamon, vanilla. I still don’t know what caused it. Now when I cook certain foods I have to have my husband sample them to make sure the spices are right.
Explain my loss of smell/taste in Jan 2018, along with all the other “covid” symptoms.
I don't think your idea that SARS-COV-2 exists and Denis' are conflicting, the difference is the virulence of SARS-COV-2. Denis' research suggests it was no more lethal than typical seasonal flu, that is my understanding. Anyways, expressing your thoughts and asking questions is a good thing unless we turn into what we despise.
Thanks. https://substack.com/@denisrancourt/note/c-64463044
Covid-19 could have not given any important number of excess deaths. But pneumonia could not have resulted in any bigger part of deaths in the official "Covid-19 deaths" group (by the CDC) too. The easiest way to prove it is to show the average number of chronic conditions is not visibly increased against a comparative group of alive ones with the same age-structure. In: 'Extended Abstract' + 'Remarks' + 'Additional Notes' of https://zenodo.org/record/8312871
I haven't read this research from Rancourt, thanks for mentioning it.
Rancourt has many followers who directly posit that there is no SARS-CoV2 spike protein. "Because it's a myth!" was the intellectual justification from one of them. I guess this has left a profound impression on me of what Rancourt is about. I'd better go to the source, but he doesn't help when his many tweets dismiss anyone who doesn't 100% submit to his views as stupid.
Many of Rancourt's followers can be found in the comments section of "no pandemic" substack articles by Neil, Engler, and Hockett. I followed this group from inception up until recently, and have read many of their articles. They seem to favor pure statistical analysis, lightly dismiss strong observational evidence, impugn medical journals on one hand while using them as supporting evidence on the other, and never even mention monumental physical evidence such as autopsy findings since 2021 from several German pathologists (Schirmacher, Burkhardt, Lang).
So, I believe, there is something not quite coldly scientific there. But does this reflect Rancourt? I guess I still need to work on that.
Here is a video of one of the authors of the paper.
https://rumble.com/v597mxp-excess-mortality-across-the-western-world.html
Thanks for the link. It's excellent. Especially like the reverse engineering of the paper claiming "millions of lives saved by the vaccine".
And this part at around 30:00... "At the end of the day, the excess mortality is caused by political interventions, by public health measures that should not have been applied. And that includes the vaccine rollouts because there's very clearly no evidence that the vaccines prevented excess death, or caused any benefit."
100% agree.
Still, this doesn't rule out a novel pathogen, especially since the western "vaccines" trick the body into producing the pathenogenic protein in vast quantities and tissues not attainable by a respiratory virus. As the author states, "it's an ongoing debate".
https://rumble.com/v597mxp-excess-mortality-across-the-western-world.html
Denis is right in it. and the proof is deadly simple. The God only knows why medicals can hardly understand it:
https://zenodo.org/record/8312871
https://rumble.com/v597mxp-excess-mortality-across-the-western-world.html
When we say that the COVID CFR was [number] there is some subjectivity there, since some deaths may have been caused by the hospital treatments (e.g. remdesivir). That is inevitable. However, people definitely did get infected, run fever, and many of them had crashing SpO2. Without treatment, we know some percentage of them would have died or been seriously injured. The thing with excess deaths is you can only die once. If a whole lot of old people die through May 2020 from covid, they won't be around to die from the other stuff that would have killed them during the same year. That doesn't mean there wasn't a covid going around killing people.
The question is, before the pandemic, were there not people who had crashing SpO2 rates? And how were they treated before the pandemic vs. for this disease? Were they using other protocols during the pandemic that were previously successful and now for some reason were not successful at all? Of those in the hospital and treated with the Covid protocol, how many of them were admitted for other reasons and "tested positive" for Covid?
My understanding is that COVID 19 pneumonia is caused by microclots in the lungs and reduced lung elasticity, and the ventilator thing is what one uses for flu pneumonia, but was not appropriate for covid oneumonia, due to different mechanism. Dr. Marik and Dr. Kory figured all that out within the first few months of 2020, but were ignored.
You probably don't have time to look very deeply into this land of Shenanigans so here's some quicky links for you, regarding Kory and his Testimony back in 2020.
https://charleswright1.substack.com/p/fact-check-of-claims-made-in-tucker
https://sagehana.substack.com/p/we-are-at-war-with-this-virus
https://odysee.com/@SubversionDiversion:8/We-Are-at-War-With-This-Virus-by-Sage-Hana-20240803:f
Rose will never talk much about Particle Isolation and the faulty Original Discovery papers. Who are Tom Cowan, Mark Bailey, Andrew Kaufman, Christine Massey? Have you read a Farewell to Virology? Many More people are seeing how fraudulent Big Biz is, especially, Pharma, and the lengths they will go to fool/terrify people for their own profit.
I was following the monthly reports from Kory and Marik since March 2020, so I have first hand knowledge of how they evolved their views, and my assessment above is accurate. The one and only substantive thing that FLCCC fumbled on was in withdrawing their recommendation to use HCQ, however they has an overall good protocol, and came back around on that later and corrected themselves. I also read Kory's paper on COVID pneumonia where he pretty much explains the rationale for using steroids, which he proposed long before it was grudgingly accepted by the mainstream, in a half hearted way.
Kory was present during the // Big Loss of Patients "due to covid" // at the beginning (april 2020 - june 2020). He worked the Covid ER, WITH the Hospital Protocols. That's what my links above say, if you follow them. This timeline implicates him to abiding by the Hospital Protocols that caused Damage (ventilators, sedatives etc.), facilitated by FAKE Virus PCR test Results, while pretending to be "at war with a virus™"
FLCCC gets Huge Donations from Northwell Health. Who is the CEO of Northwell Health? Northwell killed Rebecca Charles Daughter via Hospital Protocols. https://deathbyhospitalprotocol.com/
One can treat pneumonia with Prednisone, yes? (yes I see you stated Steroids). Why give the anti-parasitic (IVM) unless you know there is a parasite? There was no rush to treat Covid Patients or Overloaded Hospitals. "We are at war with a Virus - Pierre Kory™ " is part of the Operation. It was a Huge Orchestrated Financial Scam.
Your Rockefeller Industry Medicinal Education has blinded you my friend. I hope you still don't prescribe Acetaminophen. https://robertyoho.substack.com/p/320-tylenol-is-a-pharma-atrocity
Follow the Money Trail.
1) Please Read the Anthony Colpo article on Aids.
2) RFK jr: Fauci, Farrar, and Gates have Faked Pandemics before. https://rumble.com/v2wro8d-rfk-jr-unreleased-darkhorse-podcast-late-2021.html (38:16-39:30).
If you don't know why ivermectin can be beneficial for hospitalized covid patients, when there is no parasite, then it is you that needs to do some reading, and you could start with my 2024 preprint. Kory and Marik developed their own protocols, used then, had mortality rates down by a factor of 2, published their results, and were then attacked by their own hospitals who pressured the journals to retract. I think there are some pharma shills that are working the "holier than thou" angle to attack our good doctors while the woke morons work the "discredited/misinformation" angle on the left side. The Sage Hanna person you referred to earlier is a total fruitcake. Had a look because Paul Alexander promoted her stack, then she started attacking him too. Not credible. Could be a shill, or just a fruitcake.
Can you share your link supporting the claim that the FLCCC (of which the leading physicians Marik and Kory lost their board certifications, i.e. as "non-establishment" as it gets) receives huge donations from Northwell Health, the largest hospital system in NYC?
these are more direct:
https://anthonycolpo.substack.com/p/why-the-official-aids-story-is-a
https://anthonycolpo.substack.com/p/dear-virology-do-you-have-anything
Covid-19 has been only a mortality-fallacy:
https://zenodo.org/records/8312871
The flu numbers during the “pandemic” went to zero…so could it have just been the annual flu renamed and weaponized under the (still very strange and suspect title) C.O.V.ID. ??
And what if is was all about nano inside of a synthetic p.e.g. lipoNANOparticle that was just given the name of “spike protein” because it sounds more scientific…all as a move towards digitally identifying people from the inside out…as part of a digital I.d. agenda?? I.E.
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when we all accept their data - ie: flu numbers went to 0, aren't we just possibly falling for more of their crap lies? unless flu is systematically released every year, it went nowhere. ahem. ahem.
Maybe the truth is hidden in the details and what they look for is already in the population. Gain of Function aka pure synthetic clones, is the ONLY way virology can study RNA viral particles and these sequences are in ALL the flu shots even egg based flu shots so it's possible every flu shot delivers the signals they look for but regardless RNA molecules do not have the fidelity to pandemic.
NIH funded 2016 Gryphon Scientific Review of GoF Risks & Benefits explains..
(best way to slog through 1,000+ pages is search for "however" where every petrie dish GoF model has note these do not reflect wild type virus or human immune response because clones are not real world & people are not cell cultures )
https://web.archive.org/web/20161206155142/http://www.gryphonscientific.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Risk-and-Benefit-Analysis-of-Gain-of-Function-Research-Final-Report.pdf
Possibly, but it wasn’t “them” saying anything about flu numbers disappearing, it was the alternative voices looking at accessible data that was not being talked about, specifically a shift over of flu numbers to Covid numbers. Flu deaths in 2019 were actually slightly higher than Covid numbers in 2020 during the “pandemic”. Pretty trippy.
And whether Covid 19 was naturally occurring (remember that narrative) or a lab leak, either narrative gets you to emergency measures to develop an EUA for an experimental mRNA “vaccine” that contains nano-some kind of something (still not fully disclosed) …but let’s call it liponanoparticle / spike protein / mRNA encased miracle solution to a pandemic claiming less lives than the previous years’ flu….just seems like a great cover for a transhuman experiment like the WEF’ers and technocrats such as Bill Gates, Yuval Harare, Ray Kurzweil et al have been having wet dreams about for decades…to control the masses, cull whom they wilt, and realize their own attempts at eternal life extension through technologies that are now possible to make their dreams a reality.
More ponderings…
It, the man made GOF virus, did not claim less lives. (Yes, please understand that all the numbers of who died from what, are FUBAR, yet all cause mortality went up considerably post COVID, and prior to the vaccine.
All the accusations of restricted treatment, denying effective prophalactic treatment, harmful treatments. etc, they are true. You can't get "emergency authorization" if there are working, known safety profile alternatives. There were. Ivermectin has an effective zero risk profile (1 in 600,000 for serious adverse events) and while Budesonide does have some risks they're well-known and characterized as the drug has been used for decades on a chronic basis for asthma. When used on an acute basis such as here the risks are very close to zero. Never mind Hydroxyurea which nobody still talks about at all and which a small palliative care hospital used in critically-ill Covid patients in 2020 who were all expected to die and saved nearly all of them.
When it comes to the origin of Covid that it was a "natural evolution" of something originally found in bats is KNOWN to be false. Within weeks of the virus the original sequencing coming to light it was known that the virus contains two amino acid coding blocks in sequence that never happen in nature among either bats, pangolins or humans, the two alleged precursors and of course us. That specific pairing is used in virology research for this exact reason; if you are trying to find out if something can be passed through in an experiment (since viruses cannot live independently all such research inherently must pass the virus through some sort of living tissue) you use this as a marker since it never happens naturally; if you get it out the other side you know you successfully passed it through said experiment and are not looking at a fluke. The presence of this group doesn't prove Wuhan released it either accidentally or otherwise but it does prove that man tampered with the virus on an intentional basis somewhere in its developmental path and thus humans are absolutely, with 100% certainty, responsible for its existence as without said tampering that pair of amino acids would not be present -- period.
And that is why denying the known and still manifesting harms of the man made gain of function virus is letting some very very criminal behaviour, off scott free.
Yes, Covid is less deadly up front, and the initial CFR is very low. Yet there are millions who did not take the vaccine, yet are severely disabled by long Covid, and many many studies, and autopsies of those that died, that show that the spike protein, in the vaccine and in the man made GOF virus, is both deadly and if not deadly, cause to their disability, with very similar to the vaccine harms. There are doctors like the founder of MedCram, doctor Dr Roger Seheult; "He is quadruple board-certified in Internal Medicine, Pulmonary Diseases, Critical Care Medicine and Sleep Medicine through the American Board of Internal Medicine, and Dr Paul Anderson, and they simply work on treatments, bypassing the Covid vs vaccine politics. Look up MedCram, and research these studies.
Myself, I watched my unvaccinated wife (I think with her prior compromised immune system she whould very likely have died from the vaccine) get the man made Covid in late 2022, and break out in hives, extreme weakness, and go deaf and get tennatus, all overnight, and still she suffers horribly from Long Covid.
The long term harms of the man made GOF virus will not be fully known for at least another five plus years. Why. Because the main target is the immune system, and the brain, and that is two areas we have very limited understanding of, yet can and do, if harmed, and the virus does harm them, cause an extremely wide variety of harms. Those harms are manifesting globally, in the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. Dont let the criminals that developed this man made GOF viru, off the hook!
https://rumble.com/v59u8f1-nanotechnology-and-transhumanism-unfolding-before-our-eyes-with-dr.-mihalce.html
I am so sorry to hear about your wife. Sincerely!! Here is a recent interview that if you would please listen, I think there could be answers here for your wife’s diagnosis of long covid and a protocol that I truly believe could be the answer for her using edta protocol and vitamin C as a chelation to the blood. I’ve had many long covid people cured using the protocol in this video. It may seem pretty far out, but please listen all the way through with an open mind. I believe it is the answer for your wife’s condition.
Thank you Todd.
These were never vaccines they are decades old failed cancer therapy known as TRANSFECTIONS any similarity ends at syringe delivery. Tragic folks who claim to be resistance to Pharma can't give up the wrong terminology that adds confusion.
Yep.
US news media:
https://weather.com/health/cold-flu/news/2021-01-13-flu-cases-coronavirus
Canada. Legacy media:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/flu-season-2020-canada-public-health-1.5804673
The CDC fudges the flu numbers every year to scare people into getting flu vaccines. They count pneumonia deaths as flu deaths and use fancy statistical methods to make the number of deaths look big. So, it was easy just to count all of that as from Covid.
Rancourt is wrong. He only looks at numbers and ignores observed reality. Covid was real, and nasty, and has unique symptoms different from a flu, such as blood clotting. Of course, it was the hospital protocols & the withholding of effective treatments that killed people. If the highly effective at home treatments were allowed, it would have been a big nothing burger.
Makes me wonder, where have they been getting those flu numbers from, all these years?
The universal medical response to flu-like illness was always, "Something's going around. You'll have to let it run its course. Go home and get some rest. Testing? ... Nah! By the time we find out it'll be over".
I don't know of anyone who has ever been tested for flu.
Where do they get those flu numbers? They pull them out of their ass.
You took the words right out of my mouth- perfectly stated. The one thing I find interesting is that the "no pandemic" folks who argue (correctly, but the exact extent is debatable) that the official COVID mortality data is fudged, are more than willing to accept the fudged/inflated official flu mortality data, just because it suits their "no pandemic" narrative.
Can PCR be doctored to NOT find the flu?
PCR was never a diagnostic tool & they can have primers that react to the most conserved proteins in EVERY coronavirus like looking for a pandemic of autos by searching for tires & every rtire gets labeled a car.. not fit for purpose unless perpetuating lies about what they can find about illness is used to hide the collection of genetic DNA population wide. Those swabs are worth fortunes to human genome project & sold as medical waste!!
The propensity for graft and greed is common. Data used to further their greed is a given.
It could just stand for Covert ID, does it in fact stand for anything officially, other than corono-virus disease
https://youtu.be/hfqD5aW0X5U?si=NqzPEP3vT-vGAUKO
This is what they can do with “nano” injections.
Denis Rancourt wrote: "What would it need?"
An alternative reality where I didn't physically get ill from a disease I've never had before. And I say this as a person who very rarely gets ill from cold or flu (last time I had a flu I think I was... 14? Decades, basically; never took one of those poisonous flu shots, either).
Ignoring the "loss of smell" as symptomology is dishonest, frankly. It also comes with a loss of taste, which is not something I've ever experienced in either colds or flu. It's not like a stuffy nose; the nasal passage is typically clear. It is a net neurological loss of taste and smell.
I think the implied fallacy is people are conflating 'lack of lethality' with 'lack of virus'. Viruses exist without lethality. It's why the common cold is a thing. For a virus to rapidly spread, it has to be, on average, less fatal. It's why the original SARS burned out but SARS-CoV-2 didn't; even the demograph marked as 'high probability of dying' were the very old - over 80s, I do believe?
It is possible for a virus to exist, lack lethality, and for the governments to have used it as an excuse to kill people with protocols E.G. Midazolam murders. They are opportunists and psychopaths first and foremost. What was the saying? 'Never let a crisis go to waste'?
Well said.
Re: "people are conflating 'lack of lethality' with 'lack of virus'." Yes. And for that matter, also 'lack of lethality' with 'lack of bio-weapon'.
Just because it's not a very good bio-weapon, doesn't mean it's wasn't a product of bio-weapons research. I've read some pretty lousy substack articles, but they are substack articles nonetheless.
Maybe SARS-CoV-2 spike is 9 parts Wile E. Coyote and 1 part Dr. No, but there is still much evidence to suggest that it's a new concoction. Dr. Coyote?
My early doors theory is SARS-CoV-2 was always meant to be an envelope type virus - it was supposed to carry a payload it was then meant to deliver. The other theory was worse; that SARS-CoV-2 had a "slow burn" protocol that would take years or decades to emerge (a bit like HIV).
Another one,
I wouldn't say theory but more of an amusing "what if"... SARS-CoV-2 had already escaped the cupboard, possibly for observation possibly by accident, and they needed something to swing the 2020 election. When life hands you 2 lemons, well then you've got enough to make lemonade. Voila! A pandemic is born. Oh, and now we can try our wonder "vaccine".
You are right:
https://zenodo.org/records/8312871
Why would the deep state not use a real virus? Think of all the things they could accomplish with some concoction.
I remember an interview with Dr. Zelenko where he retold how he noticed those strange pneumonias appearing in his practice that he could not treat. This piqued his interest and led him to the paper trail of patents from Ralph Baric and the zink ionophores. And he came up with that before all others iirc, this man deserves way more credit, RIP.
What does Rancourt argue about, there being no GoF Covid at all?
Zelenko was so sensible and down to earth. Basic premise - how best to treat his patients for what ailed them with what was available. And researched how. He did say that his personal experience with cancer and God had taught him to always look deeper. Bless his soul 🙏
There was no evidence of a spreading, deadly pathogen.
From my perspective in New Zealand, where there is still censorship of anything other than government/pharma propaganda is that no, there was no pandemic by the accepted definition of a pandemic. Or at least, the definition that had been around in existence for a long time before the definition was 'updated' (along with the definition of a vaccine) to suit the measures that were rolled out worldwide. The politicians just wanted to be seen to "Do something, anything" and Big Pharma wanted to do what it always does and rake in the $$$. People have had their trust in themselves to keep themselves healthy undermined for decades and latched onto the "Do something, anything!" hook, line and sinker. Fear makes people do stupid things and this has been weaponised against us.
With regards to the existence or non-existence of the coronavirus labelled SARS-CoV-2, I am yet to see anything convincing (scientifically) that shows it doesn't exist. All of what I have seen to date, shows that it does exist, and it was synthetically created or at least synthetically altered. Were the number of infections blown massively out of proportion? Absolutely. But when you have to "Do something, anything!", making a disease that's not really any worse than seasonal flu out to be the coming apocalypse requires a lot of massaging of numbers. And it's sadly become so easy to do that labelling information and methods 'scientific' even when they're deeply flawed and deeply unscientific (some might say fraudulent even).
I know a lot of people now believe viruses don't exist at all. And being an open-minded sceptic I think that it's possible that viruses aren't exactly what we think they are. I mean, there's a lot in human science that just isn't understood, known or quantified. There is more that we don't know than there is what we do. But as above, I am yet to see any convincing evidence that viruses don't exist at all that can't be explained by Terrain Theory. I have asked the question over and over - if viruses don't exist, then why are some illnesses so defined by a specific set of symptoms? If kids get chicken pox, how is that they all have almost identical symptoms (unique genetics, physiology and health state lending some differences of course)? I still haven't gotten a plausible answer let alone evidence that adequately explains this.
Reading Denis, restricted to this one part of the tweet, it appears he is only saying there was no pandemic. He makes no mention of the alleged origin of the pneumonia nor does he seem to be denying suffering and death.
Neither does Denis say -- at least from what's posted here -- that he denies the existence of SARS CoV-2.
He is saying there was no pandemic; I agree. Does this warrant clarification? Yes...
It appears that Denis operates under the definition put forth by the W.H.O. until 2008: "An influenza pandemic occurs when a new influenza virus appears against which the human population has no immunity, resulting in several, simultaneous epidemics worldwide with enormous numbers of deaths and illness..."
Substitute "new coronavirus" for "new influenza virus." The definition has two parts: "new" and "enormous numbers of deaths and illness." So, "new coronavirus?" Check. "...simultaneous epidemics worldwide with enormous numbers of deaths and illness?" No check...
This was an 𝒐𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏, not a pandemic.
Did people get sick? Yes. Did they appear to have some new thing -- SARS CoV-2 -- that allegedly caused the illness? Yes. Were people "tested" with a thing never intended as a "test" -- despite Drosten? Yes. Was that thing -- PCR -- abused (elevated CTs) to the point of getting the "right" result? Yes. Were "positive" test results called "cases" even in the absence of symptomatic illness? Yes. Was this used to justify the use of the word "pandemic?" Yes.
Were people ordered to isolate, close their businesses, avoid medical care until blue? Yes. Was medical care for the "usual symptoms" denied? Yes. Was medical treatment for other illnesses closed off due to "COVID?" Yes. Was the treatment protocol, ultimately suffered by hospital patients, the wrong treatment? Yes. Were available and efficacious treatments denied and vilified? Yes. Did the media pound the ever-lovin' shit outta people to the point of near hysteria? Yes.
I could go on...
When the likes of a slimeball like Deborah Birx admits with her face hanging out, "When people start to realize that 99% of us are going to be fine, it becomes more and more difficult" to get people to comply, she said. https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2020/aug/18/birx-notes-harm-of-virus-fatigue/ there ain't no pandemic.
So. Yes, Denis is correct. There was no pandemic. What there was -- and still is -- is an 𝒐𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏.
This: https://substack.com/@denisrancourt/note/c-64463044
Jessica, you were one of my go-to authorities in middle to late 2021. And without a doubt your information was pretty damn good ! And has remained consistently reliable throughout. For the last year or so, I’ve taken an interest in Denis Rancourt’s work. In fact last year I made a video about his work. The video is on my substack “FLASH BACK 14 There was no Pandemic” https://open.substack.com/pub/oxgmcxo/p/flash-back-14?r=pf0i9&utm_medium=ios Now, I am not associated with Denis, But he and I did communicate after I released the video. Regarding, his claim there was no pandemic, I’ve never perceived his position that there wasn’t a pathogen floating around, it just that it wasn’t the driver of death, and that the deaths that did occur, weren’t at a level that could be consisted a “pandemic.” His work is very telling and well worth a look. And in my opinion none of it conflicts with Jessica’s valuable and important work! If fact, “Jessica you are awesome!!”
Thanks! https://substack.com/@denisrancourt/note/c-64463044
You’re welcome Denis! Just trying to clarify the record :)
The problem is, there can be "man made" viruses modified in a lab, but that they were never successful in creating one that successfully thrived and spread outside of a lab.
I agree with your first point that I don't accept something because someone tells me to. Throughout this pandemic we were told early and often there was a novel virus, it was spreading and deadly to everyone. And all evidence was to the contrary around us. But we were told this narrative 24/7. If there was a dangerous novel pathogen, wouldn't we have seen existence of it before March 13th Lockdown call. The only major evidence many of us knew was the restrictions and what was on TV and radio and other mainstream media.
2. It denies people's personal experience and what comes with that.
The problem here is, the majority of people's "experience" is tainted by the 24/7 media assault on them saying there was a "dangerous novel virus." To this day, people are reporting their cold and flu symptoms in posts as if this means something. We have been hammered with "this is important, deadly, significant" for four years. So "personal experience" will be cloudy. Can anyone who was not exposed to the MSM and requisite restrictions in their area of the world honestly say that their experience was not tainted to some degree by the barrage of information surrounding the "pandemic?"
This is like saying "There must be a pandemic, they shut down all the restaurants (without drive thrus) in my area and i see people wearing masks in the grocery store."
3. So they found the "spike protein" recipe in what is being defined as SARs and also the injection. What is it based on? When they isolated and cultured the original virus in an "infected sample" did they also run a control on an "uninfected sample?" Were artifacts that have been asserted as "viruses" also cultured and isolated from uninfected samples?
The hubris here is thinking that what was found means anything.
In my experience I saw no signs of serious illness in anyone. Very few heavy colds even. Seen lots of death and serious afflictions in the jabbed. In my life it all made what I was doing even more challenging - negotiating around the 'measures' in lockdown madness arranging essential care, nightmare shopping queues, shut trades etc and trying to have sensible level headed conversations about, well, anything. Lost paranoid friends and made some fabulous new ones. Never wore a mask, never did anything different, never sick, never tested, ferociously fought idiotic 'medics' to keep relatives unstabbed, days of my life spent doing that..... but seriously bored with it all then and looking at the results and the psycho and health damage and control, now. I do wonder how 'they' would cope with something genuinely serious?
I knew of two people who allegedly died "with Covid" during the pandemic. Both were elderly and had pre existing medical conditions. One guy at karaoke had cOPD and could not even, at times, finish a song, and this was pre pandemic. Another guy had his issues as well, I think it was something to do with his liver. Stands to reason, they died "with" and not "of" Covid.
I don't have many outlets for sensible conversation. Most of my interactions on twitter devolve into ad hominem quickly, and the most entertaining part is when they explain to me that "it's not ad hominem, you idiot."
I wish I could say I never wore a mask, but Uber rides, doctor's waiting rooms, and hospitals made it so it was not true.
"I wish I could say I never wore a mask, but Uber rides, doctor's waiting rooms, and hospitals made it so it was not true."
I am proud to say I Never covered my face, despite numerous hospital and doctor visits during that time. Nobody in the hospitals even questioned it with even a look. One doctor visit ended up with them frog marching me out and drawing blood from me in the car park because I wouldn't cover my face. But I NEVER yielded to their ridiculous rules and went proudly bare faced. Standing up for myself and showing others that it could be done was huge. Difficult at times, and I got attacked for it, but such an important thing for me I took all that rather than submit.
I have to say though how disappointing it was to see SO many sensible folk 'going along to get along'. More than disappointing, it makes me sad to the core.
I was not a visitor, but rather a patient, and was (arbitrary and capricious) told to wear a mask out in the corridors the few time I was out of my room. Yet I was unmasked, in my room, with the door open on numerous occasions. My price for compliance was my hospitalization and follow up treatments.
The spectrum of PPE I was introduced to was also interesting. One nurse wore both a mask and face shield. I could barely understand her. I was thinking maybe they should erect a lucite barrier around me like a giant lava lamp and I could stick my arms though small openings to get blood work taken and receive foods and meds.
I would say my not wearing a mask was 99.8% effective, but for those few hours of Uber rides, and hour to two hour visits to doctor's offices, those were not my best moments.
However, when I voted in 2020, I was the only person at the one Georgia voting spot during my interval of time voting who did so not wearing a mask.
You sound like the kind of person I'd be happy to have as a friend Jimmy.
#HoldTheLine
Well done. I was thankfully an outpatient rather than interred and was able to walk away had I felt the need.
For sure none of the so called PPE interventions had any consistency and for that alone the whole thing was, on its face, a farce.
''The hubris here is thinking that what was found means anything.''
Disagree, and strongly...
https://jessicar.substack.com/p/on-the-there-was-no-pandemic-subject/comment/64416899
I am fine with your strong disagreement.
The cool thing is, you can disagree, and we will continue to disagree on this. You assert in your comment that two amino acids were found that do not occur in nature.Have the powers that be properly tested everything in nature? Show to me that all the flora and fauna have been mapped and completely measured.
And then there is this:
" That specific pairing is used in virology research for this exact reason; if you are trying to find out if something can be passed through in an experiment (since viruses cannot live independently all such research inherently must pass the virus through some sort of living tissue) you use this as a marker since it never happens naturally."
See the problem here is that there were not proper controls during the initial isolating and culturing phase of a virus. So the "amino acids" are found when the question of "is this actually a virus we isolated" is still at question. You say that "it is not natural" and my response is "is this even a virus we are testing here?"
You claim that it is. Show me with uninfected specimens treated in the same fashion as the isolation and culturing phase that is subjected to "infected samples" that similar or identical results are not possible.
Also, it is completely possible that someone lets out of a lab a limited form of something that is transmissible with these markers. But again, does that mean anything?
"Have the powers that be properly tested everything in nature"
That is a strawman of the highest order. All of science is not absolute, as science is always open to further observations. To use such a statement is meaningless, as it is a given and applies to every single observation, scientific or otherwise. There is always a new test, a bigger microscope, a new w/l used to observe, etc....
Yes, it is a virus being tested, and the genetic research markings were found.
You then ask a very broad question, does it mean anything. Yes, it means a great deal and the harms of the man made GOF virus are observed in scientific studies around the world.
How is it a straw man to ask this question? It's not a logical fallacy. If you say "these amino acids do not exist in nature" this speaks of a certainty. A better way of putting it would be "these amino acids to date have not existed in this sequence naturally." Based on both the policies and studies during this time, far less is certain than more.
"Yes, it is a virus being tested, and the genetic research markings were found."
Except we don't know if it is a virus being tested. There have been studies conducted where they have taken non infected samples and placed them under the same culturing and isolating conditions and have resulted in...what can be seen as HIV, measles, and Covid. How do you explain that?
Uninfected samples also have the Covid virus in them. Does this mean that even the uninfected cells were actually infected?
You say there are great harms of the GOF virus itself, but where? I suggest it is in the iatrogenic treatments early on, as well as the unintended other consequences of scaring a large portion of the global population into thinking they were constantly being subjected to a "novel deadly disease."
And then of course, we have the result of the experimental injection.
I never said it was a logical fallacy. I pointed out that it (the chance for a new or improved observation) is universally true of all science, so an overbroad generaltiy not cogent to current specific evidence. Please read the Jo Nova link, we do know it is a virus being tested. https://jessicar.substack.com/p/on-the-there-was-no-pandemic-subject/comment/64417907
Yes, and I gave leads for you to follow if you choose, plus my personal story with regard to my wife. There are literally hundreds, if not thousands of papers. As to the vaccine, I never discounted it in the least, as it is worse.
The strawman argument is a logical fallacy. The strawman is essentially bringing up an argument that wasn't originally stated. In terms of "is this or aint this a pandemic" it is very germane that the germs/viruses be properly isolated. So it isn't a logical fallacy to ask the question.
The problem is, the evidence is not in yet. If you tell me this is a "man made" virus, but the original virus was not properly isolated and cultured, then how can it be true? One could take what they thought was a "naturally occurred virus" and then modify it, but if the original artifact was not a virus, then what have we modified here?
I also find it interesting that the "proof" you have are links to other comments you make.
I am not saying that viruses aren't real. I am saying that what they may be isolating and culturing is not a virus.
"We can only make copies of viruses by putting them in cells which use all the same chemical elements and much of the same coding and proteins. Separating out the viruses from 100,000 similar chemicals to get purity is possible but expensive and scientifically pointless."
Except it isn't pointless if you do the same process without having an infected sample and the results are the same or similar. So, yes, it is expensive but it is also far from pointless.
No one is saying viruses aren't real. What I am saying is that if the same process of isolation renders similar to identical results, then how can that be a virus?
People did get sick in 2020 as they did since time immemorial. No one is denying that. That they caught something and spread it to others is not also to debate here. But, was it novel? Was it deadly? What if those who "tested positive" were treated instead as if they had a cold or a flu, would all of them had met the same bad outcome?