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Mike's avatar

It would not surprise me in the slightest, if the effort is actually sponsored.

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Peter Athanasius's avatar

It would surprise me if it was *NOT* subsidized -- https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/psywars-fifth-generation-warfare

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Josh Blunt's avatar

It is surely a concerted and organized effort.

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David Nelson's avatar

Great news-let us know how much you donated toward Ms. Rose's legal fees. Thanks.

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Jln's avatar

I agree that it made be sponsored and targeted. You have to look at all options.

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Mike's avatar

I have a sort of Telegram account. We are at odds over their censoring efforts. I doubt that I will have any sort of account tomorrow as I climbed on and pasted the following;

This is not the Dr Jessica Rose as portrayed. Fix it you censoring dumbasses...i am not a robot, so i may appear a bit blunt.

😅

Stay safe out there.

Cheers

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Bandit's avatar

May God keep you safe from these people, Dr. Rose.

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Jessica Rose's avatar

Thank you.

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David's avatar

Doubt it is random trolls doing this. Happens far too often and very predictably against anyone speaking out contrary to the MSM narrative.

Gosh, who could be behind such coordinated psyops?

Keep fighting the good fight Jess!

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Original Owner's avatar

"Gosh, who could be behind such coordinated psyops?"

Why, the Good Guys, of course!

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Laura Munro's avatar

Thank you for the warning, I joined the telegram account because I thought it was you, and when objectionable material came up I unsubscribed, and suspected you had been hacked. Not until later upon reading your email did I realise the entire account was fake, made to smear you by slowly injecting strange material.

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Trevor Central Africa's avatar

I have left the channel

I don't know how I signed up

I have wondered why you were posting some really fringe stuff!

You have really raised the bar when analysing and sharing the facts!

I look forward to your updates

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Jessica Rose's avatar

You don't know how you signed up? Really? This is a whole new level then.

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Trevor Central Africa's avatar

Sounds wonky, but I have a suspicion!

I follow a number of Telegram strands, which like the WHC I feel are totally trustworthy, but there is a local one I follow to keep up with what are sometime extreme and very weird views from across the whole spectrum of opinions! Forewarned is forearmed, so to speak.

Your regular posts are often shared by this site and I think I picked up the fake account from it: i.e. opened the link, it looked good and assumed you had a Telegram account, so clicked on "follow".

But as mentioned, over a few days I found some posts very odd and out of character! In fact, yesterday morning I was wondering how I could relay my uneasiness with "your different line of thoughts".

So thanks for the clarification and I hope I have managed to shake this weirdo account off!

...hmmm sorry for all the words...

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EnthusiaSAM's avatar

I unsubscribed and reported the fake and the additional info I added was a link to this substack post - hopefully they will take action.

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Plissken Boon's avatar

This is terrible Jessica ... I'm sorry whoever is doing this is being allowed to get away with it ...

It reflects very badly on Telegram, particularly with you having to take legal action ... you would think the people running Telegram would have more integrity ...

On a more positive note ... the work you do is awesome ...

Thank you ...

pb

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Original Owner's avatar

Reflects very badly indeed -- only question is whether it's abysmal incompetence or contemptible complicity.

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Plissken Boon's avatar

I'm sure Jessica has been complaining to them for some time ... I realized just how frustrated she is today ... and I feel her pain a little, as I have been a victim of impersonation twice ... and one of my accounts is now banned from YouTube - I can't log in ... and I explained that my account was hacked a year ago - I can't be bothered, I have bigger fish to fry at the moment, but the fact that Jessica has been complaining for some time ... she's a bit of a weird surfer chick, but we all know she's a great girl ... would indicate this is more than incompetence ...

As I said ... it reflects very badly on Telegram ... and is a warning to us all ... we have a lot of work to do to right our World

Some, I think, are wary of my motivations ... I am aware some authors don't 'like' my comments on their posts ... I think I know why ... but, ultimately, we all want to make this World a better place ... because there is something terribly wrong with it at the moment

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SoCalGal's avatar

Told telegram to remove the fake account. Hope it helps.

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Guynoir's avatar

Good luck with this I found someone impersonating another scientist on telegram last week.

Keep being awesome!

John

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EVIE  BROWN's avatar

I never joined but did file a fake account report for you

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Jessica Rose's avatar

Thank you!

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Michael B's avatar

Disgusting.... Best of luck Jess! Hope you shut the bastards down!

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Stephen Feldman's avatar

I'm so sorry to hear about this it's awful

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Traffer's avatar

As if Jessica Rose would promote violence against women.

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Dan's avatar

Start ur telegram account and keep forwarding twits and substack to it - may address hunger for your presence there and draw audience from fake buggers

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Jessica Rose's avatar

I will NEVER have a telegram account. Never have and after this, why would I?

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Dan's avatar

You don’t have to respect or like it - just fill the void. Followers of that fake account came searching for you, after all. Won’t take you a lot of effort to gain larger audience

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Foodie Traveler's avatar

If only for the cybersecurity concept called planting your flag:

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/06/plant-your-flag-mark-your-territory/

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Greg Pilcher's avatar

I suspect Telegram itself is complicit. Fake Telegram accounts are pervasive. My experience is that Telegram never acts on requests to take down fake accounts and never even bothers to respond when readers use the reporting tools Telegram provides to report the fake accounts. Many in the medical freedom movement have been victimized. Telegram's silence suggests complicity.

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Dan's avatar

No argument there. I've reported many fakes, including one pretending to be Jessica's, and nothing ever happened. All I suggest is to make it harder to fake by presenting the genuine Jess

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Datagal's avatar

Substack readers should also beware that someone is posing as el gato malo and also Mark Crispin Miller and sending fake replies with a phone number. I realized it was a scam because it’s the same phone number! I alerted both authors, but not sure they received . Is there a way to alert Substack corporate?

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David Walker's avatar

Check the phone number, it is one of a block of Chinese smartphone numbers.

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Datagal's avatar

The messages came to me (one was a reply to my comment and one replied to someone else’s comment) and looked like normal SS replies but they don’t show up in the feed. So I can’t flag them and report to SS.

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David Walker's avatar

Mine were in a reply to a comment in the "el gato malo" substack.

Other posters had received similar, I believe the owner had been notified as there was more than one post complaining about them..

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Datagal's avatar

How do I know if it’s in that block? It had a Miami area code.

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David Walker's avatar

The number in the email I received was ㈩𝟏𝟕𝟖𝟔𝟔𝟑𝟐𝟑𝟓𝟐𝟕. and I found it in a block of numbers on a Chinese site containing the following:

"The Huangshi section of Hubei Province created a list for the 1-9999 ladder of 1786632" and then the block of numbers, one of which was the one in question.

For reasons of security I won't actually post the link to the site.

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