Further to earlier comment - AZ wasn’t removed from the market in either Australia or the UK until much later, which probably explains the disconnect.
The secondary issue is that following the first two jabs, people were then given Pfizer, and then Moderna. So the liability (and doubt) has been nicely spread around.
I’m not aware of any situation previously where it was simply - take a jab, any jab…
Further to earlier comment - AZ wasn’t removed from the market in either Australia or the UK until much later, which probably explains the disconnect.
The secondary issue is that following the first two jabs, people were then given Pfizer, and then Moderna. So the liability (and doubt) has been nicely spread around.
I’m not aware of any situation previously where it was simply - take a jab, any jab…
'Mix and match' muddied the waters very nicely for all concerned, certainly. There are some other vaxxes being thrown into the mix in the UK now.
The disappearance of AZ in the UK is referred to as 'it's not on offer anymore as doses have run out' - they won't officially admit the withdrawal for safety reasons!
In reality, of course, they don't care about safety, it's just that other regulators withdrew AZ, and it was causing too many injuries of a certain type, and they feared the public would realise the truth.
It does my head in that people just barrelled in on blind trust and belief.
I had red flashing lights and screaming sirens going off immediately, and it's staggering to me that others didn't.
I remember a woman I work with (now severely vaccine-injured with myocarditis, destroyed immunity, multisystem inflammatory meltdown, spent weeks in ICU, tracheotomy, ventilator, induced coma, now in a wheelchair, needing oxygen) telling me she'd said to her 12 y.o son "which one do you want, pick one".
They all seem to have believed it was just another flu vaccine - despite the massive upheaval of society and globally coordinated worldwide lockstep campaign, which you'd THINK would have set off alarms.
It's frightening that most of humanity was this checked out.
A 40yo relative in the UK only had one - his heart stopped as he was walking his kids to school. If not for his Wife doing CPR and someone fetching a defib unit that would have been it. He worked offshore and ran half marathons. Was one week out from his second dose…
Yes of course, but remember this i a retrospective data analysis which is presumably just confirming what must have been already obvious to those in possession of better data not publicly available.
Oh sure. Aware what I’m saying os completely anecdotal but I just realised this last week. Lot of focus on mRNA etc but that came later and really only as a booster in Australia.
Further to earlier comment - AZ wasn’t removed from the market in either Australia or the UK until much later, which probably explains the disconnect.
The secondary issue is that following the first two jabs, people were then given Pfizer, and then Moderna. So the liability (and doubt) has been nicely spread around.
I’m not aware of any situation previously where it was simply - take a jab, any jab…
'Mix and match' muddied the waters very nicely for all concerned, certainly. There are some other vaxxes being thrown into the mix in the UK now.
The disappearance of AZ in the UK is referred to as 'it's not on offer anymore as doses have run out' - they won't officially admit the withdrawal for safety reasons!
In reality, of course, they don't care about safety, it's just that other regulators withdrew AZ, and it was causing too many injuries of a certain type, and they feared the public would realise the truth.
Before we moved them closer, our in-laws got 2x AZ, 2x Pfizer, and a Moderna…
We thought they stopped at the AZ and after the Father in law had a heart attack, but no. And now they are in a world of hurt.
Oh God. 2x AZ, 2x Pfizer and a Moderna as well??!
It does my head in that people just barrelled in on blind trust and belief.
I had red flashing lights and screaming sirens going off immediately, and it's staggering to me that others didn't.
I remember a woman I work with (now severely vaccine-injured with myocarditis, destroyed immunity, multisystem inflammatory meltdown, spent weeks in ICU, tracheotomy, ventilator, induced coma, now in a wheelchair, needing oxygen) telling me she'd said to her 12 y.o son "which one do you want, pick one".
They all seem to have believed it was just another flu vaccine - despite the massive upheaval of society and globally coordinated worldwide lockstep campaign, which you'd THINK would have set off alarms.
It's frightening that most of humanity was this checked out.
I know. They told us their old doctor said he wasn’t getting any more so we assumed they had done the same.
When they moved closer to where we did and both ended up in hospital it all came out - and it’s been downhill since.
I figured with Australia the way it was and us having moved to acreage in a rural area we would just watch and wait.
It quickly became apparent that wait was permanent.
I had two family members have heart attacks in one week in September 2021 after AZ. One in the UK, and one here. That kinda sealed the deal.
A 40yo relative in the UK only had one - his heart stopped as he was walking his kids to school. If not for his Wife doing CPR and someone fetching a defib unit that would have been it. He worked offshore and ran half marathons. Was one week out from his second dose…
Yes of course, but remember this i a retrospective data analysis which is presumably just confirming what must have been already obvious to those in possession of better data not publicly available.
Oh sure. Aware what I’m saying os completely anecdotal but I just realised this last week. Lot of focus on mRNA etc but that came later and really only as a booster in Australia.