“I can tell you where I was when the CNN feed came that it was 95% effective"
This is the culmination of decades of toxic PR and corporate capture of government. The first impactful exposure of this was 1996 publication 'Toxic Sludge Is Good For You - Lies, Damn Lies and the Public Relations Industry' by John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton
They founded the site Sourcewatch that tracks the front groups and astroturf campaigns which has grown to several campaigns including ALEC Exposed centered on Koch Bros very effective legislative assault on consumer protections.
Their chapter about selling the Gulf War has many parallels to events that followed including this Covidian madness. It's tragic we have had to reach a point of genocide before a significant segment of the public is alarmed by this reality. Recognizing a problem is the first step to fixing it and with luck we are closer than ever to that.
Indeed, both sites you list are part of that PR machine. Both are from the so-called Center for Media and Democracy, which is purely a left wing press release generator, no better than Media Matters. Their funding comes from folks like the Ford Foundation, Tides Foundation, Open Society, etc. They basically do what they accuse everyone else of doing. Who better to know, I guess?
It isn't to say there's no truth there. I'm sure there is some, the best lies incorporate some truth. But using biased sites to find bias is using gasoline to put out fires.
pfft .. not even close to accurate. The umbrella CMD came after a decade of PRWatch and Sourcewatch had grown enough to expand the content and there is no difference among them as sources nor is any suggested. You're wrong about almost everything except Tides in the list of donors.
I have known John Stauber and followed their work for 20 years. The sites achieve what Wikipedia failed to do with crowd sourced researchers contributing and actual fact checking. They have no relation to Media Matters and No funding from Ford Foundation or Soros Open Society.
So she relied on CNN for the efficacy number, and that number was purposely misleading. Absolute efficacy was less than 1% in initial trials, no? How many would have been spared vax harm had the <1% efficacy been known?
Agree. I recall arguing at a dinner party in early 2021 that the EUA applications showed the jabs do not prevent getting Covid, just help with symptoms. People got mad and thought I was a nut. Of course I had to explain what EUA means.
Just imagine you take a vacation to a nice little sunny island. And you are screened for shot status at hotel and given a brightly colored band you can wear. Now you have the freedom to dine out without having to show your papers. And, you come home and share that information like it was a good thing.
My response from now on, the shots can kill and make people sick.
Editing a few days later: two things to add. The person I spoke to the other day dismissed me and wanted to hang up on me (the usual) as soon as I said”you know people have died from the shots and many people have gotten very sick. These shots should not be mandated.” That was it, I changed the subject.
I found out yesterday my 12 yr old step grandchild got 1 shot so far. It only came up because they asked why I didn’t take the shot. Because the child was sitting with us, I said these are emergency use clinical trials, they are not licensed and in the children study discussed by the fda it was said they will find out how safe they are once they start giving them. I was told the little boy got the shot. I said it can cause myocarditis in boys and girls.
She was scared of covid for her family. Although, early 2020 the family except the dad was sick after returning from San Francisco all the kids were taken to the doctor and given an unknown diagnosis. Later, in 2021 the dad tested positive for covid antibodies. Anyway they are all vaccinated.
I know we shouldn’t be silent but I really want to rethink my talking points.
If people took these shots out of fear and are still in that bubble telling them about sickness and deaths turns them off. I really like the “lottery” and will maybe try framing it around that. Some I know took the shot with the belief they are good citizens and it was the right thing to do. So what good citizen will buy the lottery ticket if it means harm to someone else. TLDR . Thank you for this space! Old thread but still thinking about. 🤔
Fauci is probably on a beach somewhere, he worked so hard the last 2 years...
I'm starting to enjoy this, watching these people try to cover for the lies they were so sure were noble and justified. That it all looks like outright murder to an increasing number of people, is something that might even have begun to pierce through that supposedly impenetrable barrier between our elite and the rest of us.
Still wondering when they'll "circle back" to Trump. I supported him, but he failed us when we needed a president who would protect our rights and our safety. If he coerced folks to get the EUA, then blame him, stop the shots, and open all the books now.
Maybe it's a Catch-22 for the Communists. Blaming Trump could end the bio-terrorist state, and they can't give that up.
Every single person in govt who was supposed to provide President Trump with the information necessary to make decisions, was backstabbing and lying to the President. The CEO of Pfizer explained in this clip that he himself (the CEO) was convinced to use the new experimental MRNA technology even though he had reservations as well. We cannot fault the president from being misled by nearly every single career agency head who supposedly was in place to make scientific leadership decisions in the medical response field.
Not saying president Trump didn’t make many mistakes, because of course he did. He should have re-assigned and fired nearly all of these agency heads on day 1 but he stupidly believes perhaps some of them had good intentions.
The buck stops there! His instincts at the time were right but he was misled. To this date he has not accepted responsibility for this and he still endorses the vaccine.
This is beyond insane, this is absolutely criminal. They forcibly coerced the masses into taking a experimental and untested genetic therapy, they made the masses believe this was a safe and tested product. Now they are trying to backpedal, they cannot be be let off the hook.
you know he got the safety data early and often. He knew the Death count.. CEOs know data this critical as soon as it comes in.. and yet still he proceeded with the poison jab production... Al Bourla = Al Capone on steroids
If you can bare to listen to this whole interview, he talks as though he was practically a bystander in the process, rather than the CEO. You can always tell when the guilty start backpedaling and doing damage limitation by the change in pronoun from "we" to "they". All of a sudden "they" are responsible for everything and that supremely powerful person in authority was really just a bumbling, naïve fool trying their best to do something good. Walensky's trying it on too. If you've ever seen an interview with an old nazi, they do the same to distance themselves personally.
Bourla can try all he likes to get his version of history out first but when the full effects of these jabs are known and people are (unfortunately) suffering en masse, I really don't think they'll care what he says. His conduct crosses into psychopathic and I really hope it's all revealed publicly as soon as possible - personal communications, trial docs, unredacted contracts politicians signed to sell out their people (Netanyahu and Von der Leyen should be sharing adjoining cells) and all the company docs they tried to hide.
Today on CBS Face the Nation was an interview of Albert Bourla. I could not watch the whole sequence because I was so disgusted by the attitude and platitude of Margaret Brennan and her host.
Brennan is sweating vaccine addiction through all her pores.
These people talked about the future like if there was no past.
She almost blamed Bourla for not having done more for the kids and pressing him in the production of new nRNA vaccines against all variants… because so many parents are asking for it.
I think they don't need we conspiracy theorists to destroy trust in government and experts. I think they will do a fine enough job taking care of that themselves.
And yet I just read today that he is saying that a FOURTH shot is necessary because: “Clearly, we are not where we would all like to be, which is [where] COVID is behind us,” Bourla told CBS News. “I think that right now, we have very significant tools in our hands so that we can go gradually, I think, back to our normal lives. But we need to understand that the COVID will not go away in the years to come.”
Really? Maybe if we would consider HCQ and/or Ivermectin ‘very significant tools’ for early treatment, we could really put this behind us. This guy is disgusting.
Maybe, just maybe the people that we have all tried to show and tell that these jabs are unsafe will see these idiots speak and realize we were the ones telling the truth. Maybe next time they won't say we are wrong because the CDC said...
“I can tell you where I was when the CNN feed came that it was 95% effective"
This is the culmination of decades of toxic PR and corporate capture of government. The first impactful exposure of this was 1996 publication 'Toxic Sludge Is Good For You - Lies, Damn Lies and the Public Relations Industry' by John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton
They founded the site Sourcewatch that tracks the front groups and astroturf campaigns which has grown to several campaigns including ALEC Exposed centered on Koch Bros very effective legislative assault on consumer protections.
Their chapter about selling the Gulf War has many parallels to events that followed including this Covidian madness. It's tragic we have had to reach a point of genocide before a significant segment of the public is alarmed by this reality. Recognizing a problem is the first step to fixing it and with luck we are closer than ever to that.
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/SourceWatch
https://www.prwatch.org/books/tsigfy10.html
Indeed, both sites you list are part of that PR machine. Both are from the so-called Center for Media and Democracy, which is purely a left wing press release generator, no better than Media Matters. Their funding comes from folks like the Ford Foundation, Tides Foundation, Open Society, etc. They basically do what they accuse everyone else of doing. Who better to know, I guess?
It isn't to say there's no truth there. I'm sure there is some, the best lies incorporate some truth. But using biased sites to find bias is using gasoline to put out fires.
pfft .. not even close to accurate. The umbrella CMD came after a decade of PRWatch and Sourcewatch had grown enough to expand the content and there is no difference among them as sources nor is any suggested. You're wrong about almost everything except Tides in the list of donors.
I have known John Stauber and followed their work for 20 years. The sites achieve what Wikipedia failed to do with crowd sourced researchers contributing and actual fact checking. They have no relation to Media Matters and No funding from Ford Foundation or Soros Open Society.
Back pedalling. We did what we thought was best, we didn’t have the facts but we knew we had to do something your Honour.
that's the expression :)
“We have to do better next time.”
So she relied on CNN for the efficacy number, and that number was purposely misleading. Absolute efficacy was less than 1% in initial trials, no? How many would have been spared vax harm had the <1% efficacy been known?
Exactly this. I was screaming this from Day One of these shots and NO one wanted to know or understand this. No one.
Agree. I recall arguing at a dinner party in early 2021 that the EUA applications showed the jabs do not prevent getting Covid, just help with symptoms. People got mad and thought I was a nut. Of course I had to explain what EUA means.
Just imagine you take a vacation to a nice little sunny island. And you are screened for shot status at hotel and given a brightly colored band you can wear. Now you have the freedom to dine out without having to show your papers. And, you come home and share that information like it was a good thing.
My response from now on, the shots can kill and make people sick.
Editing a few days later: two things to add. The person I spoke to the other day dismissed me and wanted to hang up on me (the usual) as soon as I said”you know people have died from the shots and many people have gotten very sick. These shots should not be mandated.” That was it, I changed the subject.
I found out yesterday my 12 yr old step grandchild got 1 shot so far. It only came up because they asked why I didn’t take the shot. Because the child was sitting with us, I said these are emergency use clinical trials, they are not licensed and in the children study discussed by the fda it was said they will find out how safe they are once they start giving them. I was told the little boy got the shot. I said it can cause myocarditis in boys and girls.
She was scared of covid for her family. Although, early 2020 the family except the dad was sick after returning from San Francisco all the kids were taken to the doctor and given an unknown diagnosis. Later, in 2021 the dad tested positive for covid antibodies. Anyway they are all vaccinated.
I know we shouldn’t be silent but I really want to rethink my talking points.
If people took these shots out of fear and are still in that bubble telling them about sickness and deaths turns them off. I really like the “lottery” and will maybe try framing it around that. Some I know took the shot with the belief they are good citizens and it was the right thing to do. So what good citizen will buy the lottery ticket if it means harm to someone else. TLDR . Thank you for this space! Old thread but still thinking about. 🤔
Fauci is probably on a beach somewhere, he worked so hard the last 2 years...
I'm starting to enjoy this, watching these people try to cover for the lies they were so sure were noble and justified. That it all looks like outright murder to an increasing number of people, is something that might even have begun to pierce through that supposedly impenetrable barrier between our elite and the rest of us.
…it has never been about Covid.
Still wondering when they'll "circle back" to Trump. I supported him, but he failed us when we needed a president who would protect our rights and our safety. If he coerced folks to get the EUA, then blame him, stop the shots, and open all the books now.
Maybe it's a Catch-22 for the Communists. Blaming Trump could end the bio-terrorist state, and they can't give that up.
Every single person in govt who was supposed to provide President Trump with the information necessary to make decisions, was backstabbing and lying to the President. The CEO of Pfizer explained in this clip that he himself (the CEO) was convinced to use the new experimental MRNA technology even though he had reservations as well. We cannot fault the president from being misled by nearly every single career agency head who supposedly was in place to make scientific leadership decisions in the medical response field.
Not saying president Trump didn’t make many mistakes, because of course he did. He should have re-assigned and fired nearly all of these agency heads on day 1 but he stupidly believes perhaps some of them had good intentions.
The buck stops there! His instincts at the time were right but he was misled. To this date he has not accepted responsibility for this and he still endorses the vaccine.
This is beyond insane, this is absolutely criminal. They forcibly coerced the masses into taking a experimental and untested genetic therapy, they made the masses believe this was a safe and tested product. Now they are trying to backpedal, they cannot be be let off the hook.
you know he got the safety data early and often. He knew the Death count.. CEOs know data this critical as soon as it comes in.. and yet still he proceeded with the poison jab production... Al Bourla = Al Capone on steroids
If you can bare to listen to this whole interview, he talks as though he was practically a bystander in the process, rather than the CEO. You can always tell when the guilty start backpedaling and doing damage limitation by the change in pronoun from "we" to "they". All of a sudden "they" are responsible for everything and that supremely powerful person in authority was really just a bumbling, naïve fool trying their best to do something good. Walensky's trying it on too. If you've ever seen an interview with an old nazi, they do the same to distance themselves personally.
Bourla can try all he likes to get his version of history out first but when the full effects of these jabs are known and people are (unfortunately) suffering en masse, I really don't think they'll care what he says. His conduct crosses into psychopathic and I really hope it's all revealed publicly as soon as possible - personal communications, trial docs, unredacted contracts politicians signed to sell out their people (Netanyahu and Von der Leyen should be sharing adjoining cells) and all the company docs they tried to hide.
Al Capone or Al Bourla of the Pfizer gang, whichever, there is very little difference in net results for society... a Crime Boss is a Crime Boss
Today on CBS Face the Nation was an interview of Albert Bourla. I could not watch the whole sequence because I was so disgusted by the attitude and platitude of Margaret Brennan and her host.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/videos/full-interview-pfizer-ceo-albert-bourla-on-%E2%80%9Cface-the-nation%E2%80%9D/vp-AAV0IAq
Brennan is sweating vaccine addiction through all her pores.
These people talked about the future like if there was no past.
She almost blamed Bourla for not having done more for the kids and pressing him in the production of new nRNA vaccines against all variants… because so many parents are asking for it.
Patrick, I too am afflicted with the " unbearable to watch, listen or hear" anything with Bourla or the left genocide sympathizers.
This might be awful of me, but I personally hope Fow-Chee is off somewhere suffering a severe AE.
Don't feel bad that you misspelled his name.
I think they don't need we conspiracy theorists to destroy trust in government and experts. I think they will do a fine enough job taking care of that themselves.
And yet I just read today that he is saying that a FOURTH shot is necessary because: “Clearly, we are not where we would all like to be, which is [where] COVID is behind us,” Bourla told CBS News. “I think that right now, we have very significant tools in our hands so that we can go gradually, I think, back to our normal lives. But we need to understand that the COVID will not go away in the years to come.”
Really? Maybe if we would consider HCQ and/or Ivermectin ‘very significant tools’ for early treatment, we could really put this behind us. This guy is disgusting.
Pfizer preparing to throw BioNTech under the bus???
Maybe, just maybe the people that we have all tried to show and tell that these jabs are unsafe will see these idiots speak and realize we were the ones telling the truth. Maybe next time they won't say we are wrong because the CDC said...