I’m a critical thinking adult who grew up thinking vaccines were the thing to do. I was 39 when my baby was born, I took one look at the schedule and said oh hell no. She is not vaccinated and never will be.
We did not get the Covid vaccine and never will.
These companies are cartel. The human body is a miracle when you give it the right environment.
I read somewhere that in some trials the placebo arm was administered a "placebo" that was in fact a different vaccine or a shot with an adjuvant. I was not anti-vax until spring of 2020 when I learned of the 1986 law granting immunity to vaccines on the childhood schedule and prior failure of virtually all corona virus vaccines. Now I agree with Perri Chase, but my problem is convincing my children not to vaccinate their babies.
Your problem may be in thinking you can convince them, when all you can really do is provide them with evidence giving them the opportunity to form new opinions and come to new realizations. Your problem, as is mine, is in divorcing yourself from expectation.
Indeed. The basest insult of the vaccine industry is its misrepresentation of the process of infectious illness as the enemy, when it's an essential, cleansing response to infection, its fundamental purpose to heal, not harm.
It should be standard procedure to make clear the placebo for comparison. How could anyone even think they could assess the result without understanding the difference between the cohorts. That is so basic to the science.
I have the transcript from the VRBPAC meeting from the other day and the babies were on the schedule but they claim to have advised the doctors to shift the dosing the flu and other vaccines by 2 weeks and 1 month, respectively. There's no way to know if they did. I wonder as well if they waited (if they did) for the all the doses of the COVID crap to be administered?
We don't teach medical students very well about timing. How long does it take to see improvement if you give an antibiotic for pneumonia? Well, it depends...
Three years ago I would have thought that you would see AE's within a week or so of immunisation, so I would have wanted at least a clear month before injecting an experimental preparation, and at least a month after completion of a "series" of the trial substance.
If the intervals are not clearly and explicitly stated in the trials, then the trials are GIGO, which is the best interpretation I could reach.
"We were taught about placebos in seventh grade, in science lab. A placebo is inert, or non-reactive. Simple concept, easily understood: when you test a substance, you test against a placebo, because you want that substance to be the only variable, otherwise the results are inconclusive, if not meaningless.
"Rarely do vaccine manufacturers use actual placebo in their safety trials. Yet, though it's typically made perfectly clear in the documentation they submit for approval, the FDA approves the vaccines anyway. Either the members of the FDA's Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee never passed sixth grade, or they should be indicted on charges of ethical violations, considering that every vaccine can kill, brain damage or otherwise permanently disable the recipient."
I posted the above on my Facebook page in 2013.
It was around the same time that I began seeing the word placebo replaced with "comparitor" in vaccine trial documents. It would be laughable, were it not such an obvious attempt to obfuscate. But two can play that game. I'd say that the supposed scientists stooping to such measure were sonsofbitches, but I'll use a comparitor instead. They're assholes.
Jessica, have you read "The real anthony fauxi"? At least in two cases (AZT and Rundeathisnear), fauxi's teams used falcebos... Would you suppose that they grew a conscience for this particular case?
If I had to guess, they gave them extra LNPs (well, they had to study how the human body would tolerate those and "we would never know the side effects until we try"...
Not to mention the toxic HCQ levels they used to prove that HCQ is... toxic... (while killing patients).
Yes, and they used active compound also under investigation as a possible treatment in an ivermectin trial to show it was "no better than placebo." Almost all modern vaccine trials use the adjuvant or another active compound likely to give similar rates of adverse reactions to the vaccine under study. Corrupting the placebo is done frequently nowadays. Because "Science."
Love how you write Jessica, makes us lay peops understand fully what your saying. Appreciate this must take effort and I’d like to acknowledge how generous & thoughtful this is.
Parents accept their babies get fevers after vaccines. Hopefully one thing to come out of this is there will finally be a very large group of free wild humans (unvaccinated or highly selectively vaccinated with real & safe vaccines when there is dire need) in Planet Earth. Maybe the real outfall of these horrid deceptions will be to have humans finally have a healthy mistrust for official pronouncements including those of doctors and scientists.
Although these have been recorded with earlier vaccines and many accepted “medicines” seizures and death are less frequent but no less devastating. Severe adverse events we see all around us from the mRNA “vaccines” are the climax of our acceptance of “medicine” and “health care” which have been anything but. What has led us to where we are at now is a deep and pervasive psychopathology.
I personally know parents of three kids with autism whose children experienced seizures post-jab (from regular jab schedule), within HOURS and STILL were completely dismissed and gas lighted by both ER staff and their peds. they insisted NO WAY could it be the jabs, no labs or tests of any kind done or offered. just their pronouncements. one of the boys (who is nearly recovered now, after a huge effort by mom) had measurable brain swelling (head circumference measurement) with the seizures and mom was still told it was safe to keep vaxing. when this happened (and was documented) a third time, they stopped vaxing. the seizures stopped & head size normalized. boy was dx with autism a year later. he's 14 now and doing pretty well.
That jab schedule for 6 month olds is insane. From the moment my children were born doctors wanted to give them jabs, drops, and blood draws. So glad we ultimately passed on all of it. It has been difficult to go against the grain.
I now have 3 healthy teens who haven't taken a single antibiotic in their entire life and never need to see a doc. Keeping them off social media has been hard as well but they are all well adjusted and no trans/eating disorders/suicide thoughts.
isn't that funny how people somehow think good health can be attributed to 'luck'? it has nothing to do with your lifestyle or medical choices. nothing at all. just dumb luck. I can totally relate; although I have a teen with autism (not high functioning, 'quirky' but a 4 yr old in the body of an 18 yr old. none of this celeb trendy 'autism' - don't even get me started on THAT...), all three of my boys have healthy, functioning immune systems. no jabs in 15 yrs. I also point out to people the difference between my 18 yr old and my 16 yr old. one autism/the other not. one got 18 month jabs/other did not. 'nuff said.
Jessica, several reasons point to empty LNPs as the culprit. "Placebos" have long been corrupted by using the adjuvant or another active compound, rather than an insert one.
It seems more likely empty LNPs we're used due to this, and because Pfizer and Moderna had an incentive to isolate their trial from other injections, as an interaction would make their covid injections look even worse than they already are. Also, most of the childhood vaccination schedule was completed by the six-month minimum age. The number of severe reactions here in both arms far outpaces that from the typical vaccine schedule, as this rate of SAEs did not used to be tolerated.
Note, the fake placebo recipients got a double dose of LNPs after the trial. They are still worth following.
Jessica, Trying verify truth in a dishonest system, in industry riddled with fraud shrouded in secrecy. Deliberately clouded so the truth can not be found.
that's exactly the situation we have. the corruption is so endemic and pervasive, everybody thinks it just standard operating procedure. the conflicts of interest alone don't even have to be winked at, they are right out in the open. no 'conspiracy' - its a matter of public record.
Warrior Mom, you got me to do some thinking. If you did a man-on-the-street interview and asked people, "do you know what is "a conflict of interest", how many could answer the question? If you gave an example from FDA/pharma etc and asked if that constitutes a conflict of interest, how many and of what age would you get a satisfactory response? A satisfactory response would be one that would give you reason for hope.
This was one of the things I was wondering about, what would the cumulative toxicity of SIX doses of LNP's look like, it would seem like a gamble to shoot up the placebo babies 6 times (even 4 per the original plan prior to the failure of 2 dose regiment is quite high) with highly inflammatory & toxic LNP's & hope that it doesn't produce a significant safety signal. Although considering the insane # of trial dropouts maybe that did happen.
As I have said many times I am not a Dr or Scientist. However, people like Jessica Rose has taught me many things (I think she should start her own university.) The last article that was written prior to the joke of a committee that met to discuss if they would approve these jabs (they had already ordered them, so we all new the non scientific answer) showed how the placebo caused AE'S and SAE'S. It was very confusing to me how saline (because people that haven't watched Robert F kennedy Jr documentary about the childhood schedule assume the placebo is saline) could do harm. We are literally given saline in the hospital at any age to prevent dehydration. Saline that I am aware of doesn't cause a person to die (I don't think they could hide that). I believe it is reasonable to assume that saline or an equivalent was not used in the placebo arm. I also believe that these babies could have had AE'S and SAE'S due to other shots from the schedule. How would the parents that put their babies in these trials not raise hell about their baby dieing. Someone needs to find out. I am going to submit a FOIA request and will get back to you in a year or so. In the meantime we need to fight for these babies. Governor Ron Desantis hasn't purchased these jabs for kids through 11 years old. He said he can't stop Dr's and other clinics from doing it but that the state wouldn't sponsor it. I truly thank God for our Governor. This is so sad. What kind of evil allows this to happen to the most vulnerable among us. They can't save themselves.
I wonder if the folks who handed over their babies to be experimented on (WHO does that??? what kind of mental gymnastics has to go on to justify THAT in a parent's mind??) were required to sign non-disclosure agreements and that' why they are not on the evening news.
I think they just think it's something else. The Dr's don't even hint that the cause could be the jab and if asked they would say no "it's safe". The parents don't want to believe they just Permentaley injured or killed their own child.
Had I known back then what I know now (thanks to Unacceptable Jessica, Kirsch, El Gato Malo, Igor et al, I would not have put a single 'vaccine' in my kids - of course up here in the Not-So-Great White North the kids jab schedule is not as insane as the one south of the border (are we allowed borders anymore - doesn't seem so?) but never-the-less, this is purely a win-win money-making game, pure and simple with no liability on the pharma companies.
Nail on the head. RFK, Jr., told us that our children receive 72 doses of 16 vaccines (increased by inclusion of the covid vaccine on the childhood schedule). And none of these vaccines has been studied to determine if there is any cross-reaction among them. What we do to our children is monstrous beyond measure. Who is demented enough to do this?
I have not been sick since I started taking only placebo vaccines in 2010. I have been vaxxed for small pox, DPT, typhoid, cholera, polio, tetanus, and yellow fever. That's enough. Never again!
Just when you think that it can't get any nuttier :))
One question I have, if the placebo group S/AE's were resulting from an external source to the vax trial, wouldn't that be manifest in the vax arm as well, so why would they be fairly equivalent for a bunch of the measured AE's?
I’m a critical thinking adult who grew up thinking vaccines were the thing to do. I was 39 when my baby was born, I took one look at the schedule and said oh hell no. She is not vaccinated and never will be.
We did not get the Covid vaccine and never will.
These companies are cartel. The human body is a miracle when you give it the right environment.
I read somewhere that in some trials the placebo arm was administered a "placebo" that was in fact a different vaccine or a shot with an adjuvant. I was not anti-vax until spring of 2020 when I learned of the 1986 law granting immunity to vaccines on the childhood schedule and prior failure of virtually all corona virus vaccines. Now I agree with Perri Chase, but my problem is convincing my children not to vaccinate their babies.
Your problem may be in thinking you can convince them, when all you can really do is provide them with evidence giving them the opportunity to form new opinions and come to new realizations. Your problem, as is mine, is in divorcing yourself from expectation.
Indeed. The basest insult of the vaccine industry is its misrepresentation of the process of infectious illness as the enemy, when it's an essential, cleansing response to infection, its fundamental purpose to heal, not harm.
It should be standard procedure to make clear the placebo for comparison. How could anyone even think they could assess the result without understanding the difference between the cohorts. That is so basic to the science.
I have the transcript from the VRBPAC meeting from the other day and the babies were on the schedule but they claim to have advised the doctors to shift the dosing the flu and other vaccines by 2 weeks and 1 month, respectively. There's no way to know if they did. I wonder as well if they waited (if they did) for the all the doses of the COVID crap to be administered?
We don't teach medical students very well about timing. How long does it take to see improvement if you give an antibiotic for pneumonia? Well, it depends...
Three years ago I would have thought that you would see AE's within a week or so of immunisation, so I would have wanted at least a clear month before injecting an experimental preparation, and at least a month after completion of a "series" of the trial substance.
If the intervals are not clearly and explicitly stated in the trials, then the trials are GIGO, which is the best interpretation I could reach.
"We were taught about placebos in seventh grade, in science lab. A placebo is inert, or non-reactive. Simple concept, easily understood: when you test a substance, you test against a placebo, because you want that substance to be the only variable, otherwise the results are inconclusive, if not meaningless.
"Rarely do vaccine manufacturers use actual placebo in their safety trials. Yet, though it's typically made perfectly clear in the documentation they submit for approval, the FDA approves the vaccines anyway. Either the members of the FDA's Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee never passed sixth grade, or they should be indicted on charges of ethical violations, considering that every vaccine can kill, brain damage or otherwise permanently disable the recipient."
I posted the above on my Facebook page in 2013.
It was around the same time that I began seeing the word placebo replaced with "comparitor" in vaccine trial documents. It would be laughable, were it not such an obvious attempt to obfuscate. But two can play that game. I'd say that the supposed scientists stooping to such measure were sonsofbitches, but I'll use a comparitor instead. They're assholes.
Evil assholes.
Jessica, have you read "The real anthony fauxi"? At least in two cases (AZT and Rundeathisnear), fauxi's teams used falcebos... Would you suppose that they grew a conscience for this particular case?
If I had to guess, they gave them extra LNPs (well, they had to study how the human body would tolerate those and "we would never know the side effects until we try"...
Not to mention the toxic HCQ levels they used to prove that HCQ is... toxic... (while killing patients).
Yes, and they used active compound also under investigation as a possible treatment in an ivermectin trial to show it was "no better than placebo." Almost all modern vaccine trials use the adjuvant or another active compound likely to give similar rates of adverse reactions to the vaccine under study. Corrupting the placebo is done frequently nowadays. Because "Science."
"Corrupting the placebo is done frequently nowadays. Because "Science.""
Because "Mengele".
Love how you write Jessica, makes us lay peops understand fully what your saying. Appreciate this must take effort and I’d like to acknowledge how generous & thoughtful this is.
Parents accept their babies get fevers after vaccines. Hopefully one thing to come out of this is there will finally be a very large group of free wild humans (unvaccinated or highly selectively vaccinated with real & safe vaccines when there is dire need) in Planet Earth. Maybe the real outfall of these horrid deceptions will be to have humans finally have a healthy mistrust for official pronouncements including those of doctors and scientists.
But do they accept seizures and death? Those are what we mean by severe adverse events.
Although these have been recorded with earlier vaccines and many accepted “medicines” seizures and death are less frequent but no less devastating. Severe adverse events we see all around us from the mRNA “vaccines” are the climax of our acceptance of “medicine” and “health care” which have been anything but. What has led us to where we are at now is a deep and pervasive psychopathology.
I personally know parents of three kids with autism whose children experienced seizures post-jab (from regular jab schedule), within HOURS and STILL were completely dismissed and gas lighted by both ER staff and their peds. they insisted NO WAY could it be the jabs, no labs or tests of any kind done or offered. just their pronouncements. one of the boys (who is nearly recovered now, after a huge effort by mom) had measurable brain swelling (head circumference measurement) with the seizures and mom was still told it was safe to keep vaxing. when this happened (and was documented) a third time, they stopped vaxing. the seizures stopped & head size normalized. boy was dx with autism a year later. he's 14 now and doing pretty well.
That jab schedule for 6 month olds is insane. From the moment my children were born doctors wanted to give them jabs, drops, and blood draws. So glad we ultimately passed on all of it. It has been difficult to go against the grain.
I now have 3 healthy teens who haven't taken a single antibiotic in their entire life and never need to see a doc. Keeping them off social media has been hard as well but they are all well adjusted and no trans/eating disorders/suicide thoughts.
People always tell us how "lucky" we are. Hah.
isn't that funny how people somehow think good health can be attributed to 'luck'? it has nothing to do with your lifestyle or medical choices. nothing at all. just dumb luck. I can totally relate; although I have a teen with autism (not high functioning, 'quirky' but a 4 yr old in the body of an 18 yr old. none of this celeb trendy 'autism' - don't even get me started on THAT...), all three of my boys have healthy, functioning immune systems. no jabs in 15 yrs. I also point out to people the difference between my 18 yr old and my 16 yr old. one autism/the other not. one got 18 month jabs/other did not. 'nuff said.
Jessica, several reasons point to empty LNPs as the culprit. "Placebos" have long been corrupted by using the adjuvant or another active compound, rather than an insert one.
It seems more likely empty LNPs we're used due to this, and because Pfizer and Moderna had an incentive to isolate their trial from other injections, as an interaction would make their covid injections look even worse than they already are. Also, most of the childhood vaccination schedule was completed by the six-month minimum age. The number of severe reactions here in both arms far outpaces that from the typical vaccine schedule, as this rate of SAEs did not used to be tolerated.
Note, the fake placebo recipients got a double dose of LNPs after the trial. They are still worth following.
I have FOIA-ed this information. But, we'll probably never know for reals. It's all so pathetic and low.
Jessica, Trying verify truth in a dishonest system, in industry riddled with fraud shrouded in secrecy. Deliberately clouded so the truth can not be found.
that's exactly the situation we have. the corruption is so endemic and pervasive, everybody thinks it just standard operating procedure. the conflicts of interest alone don't even have to be winked at, they are right out in the open. no 'conspiracy' - its a matter of public record.
Warrior Mom, you got me to do some thinking. If you did a man-on-the-street interview and asked people, "do you know what is "a conflict of interest", how many could answer the question? If you gave an example from FDA/pharma etc and asked if that constitutes a conflict of interest, how many and of what age would you get a satisfactory response? A satisfactory response would be one that would give you reason for hope.
This was one of the things I was wondering about, what would the cumulative toxicity of SIX doses of LNP's look like, it would seem like a gamble to shoot up the placebo babies 6 times (even 4 per the original plan prior to the failure of 2 dose regiment is quite high) with highly inflammatory & toxic LNP's & hope that it doesn't produce a significant safety signal. Although considering the insane # of trial dropouts maybe that did happen.
Such thinking out-of-the-box is unacceptable, Jessica! ;)
As I have said many times I am not a Dr or Scientist. However, people like Jessica Rose has taught me many things (I think she should start her own university.) The last article that was written prior to the joke of a committee that met to discuss if they would approve these jabs (they had already ordered them, so we all new the non scientific answer) showed how the placebo caused AE'S and SAE'S. It was very confusing to me how saline (because people that haven't watched Robert F kennedy Jr documentary about the childhood schedule assume the placebo is saline) could do harm. We are literally given saline in the hospital at any age to prevent dehydration. Saline that I am aware of doesn't cause a person to die (I don't think they could hide that). I believe it is reasonable to assume that saline or an equivalent was not used in the placebo arm. I also believe that these babies could have had AE'S and SAE'S due to other shots from the schedule. How would the parents that put their babies in these trials not raise hell about their baby dieing. Someone needs to find out. I am going to submit a FOIA request and will get back to you in a year or so. In the meantime we need to fight for these babies. Governor Ron Desantis hasn't purchased these jabs for kids through 11 years old. He said he can't stop Dr's and other clinics from doing it but that the state wouldn't sponsor it. I truly thank God for our Governor. This is so sad. What kind of evil allows this to happen to the most vulnerable among us. They can't save themselves.
I wonder if the folks who handed over their babies to be experimented on (WHO does that??? what kind of mental gymnastics has to go on to justify THAT in a parent's mind??) were required to sign non-disclosure agreements and that' why they are not on the evening news.
I think they just think it's something else. The Dr's don't even hint that the cause could be the jab and if asked they would say no "it's safe". The parents don't want to believe they just Permentaley injured or killed their own child.
Had I known back then what I know now (thanks to Unacceptable Jessica, Kirsch, El Gato Malo, Igor et al, I would not have put a single 'vaccine' in my kids - of course up here in the Not-So-Great White North the kids jab schedule is not as insane as the one south of the border (are we allowed borders anymore - doesn't seem so?) but never-the-less, this is purely a win-win money-making game, pure and simple with no liability on the pharma companies.
Pfizer was asked in one of the meetings what the placebo was and they answered saline. Do I believe that? Uh no.
One of the two also stated there was no concomitant studies.
The most vaccinated demographic on the planet, and - at least in my state - they are recommending co-administration without ANY studies.
Nail on the head. RFK, Jr., told us that our children receive 72 doses of 16 vaccines (increased by inclusion of the covid vaccine on the childhood schedule). And none of these vaccines has been studied to determine if there is any cross-reaction among them. What we do to our children is monstrous beyond measure. Who is demented enough to do this?
I have not been sick since I started taking only placebo vaccines in 2010. I have been vaxxed for small pox, DPT, typhoid, cholera, polio, tetanus, and yellow fever. That's enough. Never again!
Just when you think that it can't get any nuttier :))
One question I have, if the placebo group S/AE's were resulting from an external source to the vax trial, wouldn't that be manifest in the vax arm as well, so why would they be fairly equivalent for a bunch of the measured AE's?
Thanks for the shout out 😇
There have been reports a meningococcal vaccine was used for the placebo.
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-health/placebos-used-vaccine-trials-do-not-please-everyone