It took me 6 months to get diagnosed with myopericarditis and still not entered in vaers. I am thinking of doing it myself almost a year later. So there's that.
So sorry to hear that the medical professionals surrounding you are numbed to the extent that they have forgotten the way how to be human and treat others the way they are supposed to do.
Sending my sincere hugs trough space from a deplorable free thinking outcast that left the not so more professional workspace.
And please report to VAERS, yes it is a statistic in there but you are real, you are a humankind that needs to be recognised for the wrongdoing that was done to you trough false pretences.
Just getting the word out is just as important to me...the VAERS thing is pretty tricky i hear because you are also on a timer essentially, and the pages reset if you dont get done soon enough....of course they made it as difficult as possible. Let someone familiar do it would be my vote....
I’m a pharmacist with immunization privileges and certification. I’ve filled out one for a flu shot reaction and one for a Covid shot reaction and helped a fellow pharmacist with VAERS as well. All in a days work. I do not do any immunizations any more at this time and will likely allow my certification to lapse as I have lost all belief in the benefits of them in the last two years. And I would never give a Covid shot.
I am going to be honest here. I am very afraid of having my care compromised by making them deal with this. There are 4 doctors involved- immunologist, cardiologist, pots clinic np, and gp. Getting care for my complicated case is very difficult. I have reported the multiple adverse reactions to Moderna and to my local health department who took the info from me. Thank you for your well wishes.
It breaks my heart to hear what they are doing to you. And that you are afraid that your care will be taken away. As a health professional I cannot stress enough how absolutely monstrous this is, all and everyone that does not stand up to this evil but still participate in order to get a pay check does not ring well in my head.
Thank you for the kind words. It's really about them being understaffed and overworked, but I know if I was in their position I would report for the sake of everyone.
The understaffing and overworked professionals are planned. And it should not be an excuse as it actually is a duty to report. And you of all should never excuse them. You are on the receiving end of care and should be priority number one, next time it can be themselves that are suffering. As a person you can take a stand against your employer to make change.
I hope a time will come when you can report to VAERS without being concerned about your care being compromised. I'm glad you've reported to Moderna (I think they are required to report your case to VAERS, BTW) and to your local health department. You could also report to ICAN at https://www.icandecide.org/report-a-vaccine-injury/.
I'm sympathetic re: your situation. It looks like I have heart damage from spike protein transmitted by my husband, who got the Pfizer vaccine without telling me because he knew I'd object. I saw a doctor the first day I had symptoms, but my case was fumbled between doc, clinic and PA, and ECG lab and it was three months later that I found out -- because I finally went straight to the ECG lab and asked for a copy of my test results -- that my ECG showed abnormalities and damage. It's a long story with no happy ending yet...
Are you aware that there are many doctors working specifically on healing COVID vaccine injuries? I can give you some resources to check out if you'd like, just let me know. (This would be as a complement to the care you're getting now, not as a substitute.) Good luck to you! I hope you're able to fully recover!
I am obsessed with gathering information on all this and happy to check out your sources if you would like to share. Thank you. The comment regarding the shut down of Ace 2 receptors somewhere on here is frightening but seems right. I wonder if clearing the spike will right that problem or if permanent damage is done. And will we ever clear the spike naturally? Will all the rna disintegrate naturally? Will my immune system recover? I am 10 months out and still compromised as I recover another shingles outbreak. I have more questions than answers.
JJE, on one of Steve Kirsch's substack pieces, I wrote two comments (one short, one very long) with information about injury from the COVID-19 vaccines and resources for further information and for treatment. My two comments have now been added to the "Real Covid Research" website, which is a compilation of information primarily from doctors, researchers, etc. This website will be a good resource for you (perhaps you've already discovered it?).
To find the information from me, scroll all the way down the big center column; right now my comments are the very last things. When you see a headline "A new piece by Geert Vanden Bossche", you're almost there.
The COVID-19 vaccines have a variety of injurious ingredients and mechanisms of harm, and I think that for best results all of these things should be considered in treatment plans. Most of the resources I've seen are focused on one or a few areas of trouble and treatment; they go into detail and are often technical. My goal was to give people an overview, and just enough information to orient them about each "category" of trouble and treatment.
From Dr. Ariyana Love's detox protocol and the World Council for Health article, you can collect the names of many doctors who are treating COVID vaccine injuries. Some of the doctors effectively treating COVID-19, including "long haul" COVID, are also treating vaccine injuries. One example is Dr. Bruce Patterson, who started out treating long haulers but has discovered that his treatment protocol also helps people who've been injured by a COVID vaccine.
I hope this is helpful to you! Please feel free to PM me on Facebook if you have questions after reading my materials or want to discuss anything further.
P.S. Shingles -- When I had shingles years ago, 400 IU of dry form Vitamin E (d-alpha tocopherols) cleared the problem rapidly. I had to continue for a year before I could taper off without a recurrence.
Thanks for posting this! The first 6 things listed in this protocol are things I've read about for COVID vaccine injuries. I think most doctors treating COVID vaccine injuries would agree these things would be good.
I haven't heard about Chaga tea before; so I have no information or opinion on that.
About the zinc and copper -- Best to avoid zinc picolinate (I think Dr. Zelenko recommends zinc sulfate). Also, the kind of copper used in most supplements is metallic and not bioavailable; so it ends up being just another toxic thing your body has to cope with. Best to get your copper from grass-fed beef liver, or the bioavailable copper supplement available from the MitoSynergy company. (I'm sorry, but I've read that the liver must be eaten raw. Good advice: Cut it into very small bites, small enough to swallow whole, and mix it into a flavorful, unsweetened, organic applesauce...)
Yep. That is exactly what my daughter said when I asked her if she ever looked on VAers. . Her reply Immediately was anyone can report on there! I was like.... so 1,000,000 people had nothing better to do than file a phony report to make vaccines look bad????? Logic. Not!!
VAERS heavily vets all reports. In fact they're so diligent about it that they mistakenly take away many legit reports. I asked them about this in June of 2021 and they gave me some lame excuses -
My husband's a doctor. He's had 5 patients that may have had adverse reactions. He said it was so complicated to report to VAERS that he's only had time to do one patient. He'll have to go in on the weekend and do it on his own time if he wants to report all five incidents.
The 1,000,000 non serious ar’s is a bit overstating. No, don’t nobody go all “she’s a shill” on me. Most of y’all know I can’t stand the narrative. BUT. Be careful citing the bigger numbers. VAERS DOES include a huge amount of reports like “wrong vial used, Moderna instead of Pfizer, no adverse reaction noted” or “expired, no adverse reaction noted”.
I find it better to do a search of specific adverse reactions. The 120,000 hospitalization reports for example Or better, read the death reports. While chilling, almost all of them are hard to ignore. Only about 30 percent could be questioned. Ever those probably were vax injuries but someone could find s reason to question. That’s just my take. The other 70 percent roughly are VERY VERY hard to question (death almost immediately following vax or in healthy young individuals without preexisting disease).
I was just throwing a number out there. Honestly I don’t know how many reports were filed. Whether they be minor events or deaths. I’ve been kind of following the death totals. I find VAers very hard to maneuver so I’m glad people like Jessica do it and then report on it. I know that since the beg of vaccines being recorded on VAers this one has had the most side effects. When people say oh anyone could go on and report those. Well I suppose it’s true but it makes no sense to me that people would just go on there to report just to make the vaccines look bad. Esp the number of reports filed! Anyways. Point well taken. Does anyone know the number of reports filed? Just curious. I thought I did see something on that. If you have the exact number of events I could use that to correctly state how many have been filed. Thanks.
Go to OpenVAERS.com and look at the home page for figures that compare COVID stats to all-vaccines (including COVID) stats since 1990. Also look at the Red Box page, which gives stats for COVID-19 vaccines for a variety of adverse events including deaths, hospitalizations, urgent/ER care, and specific conditions like myocarditis, Bell's Palsy, etc. Look for the toggle that switched between "all reports" and "U.S./unknown reports." But be aware that the evidence is that VAERS personnel have been re-coding many "serious" reports from U.S. to FR (Foreign Report) since about June 2021. This is just one of their tricks to lower the U.S. report numbers and ugly statistics.
In the past, I've looked at EudraVigilance (EU) stats as a quick "check" on the U.S. VAERS system. A bit like comparing apples to oranges, though, because of the different ways of reporting summary results. About once a month, Vaccine Impact publishes a summary report based on EudraVigilance statistics. Here's the latest:
Deb: Kayla is right you can use the red box summaries on OpenVaers.com. Steve Kirsch substack also noted an NVIC related search engine (National Vaccine Information Center, which, if you don’t know about it has been fighting for informed consent for decades): http://www.medalerts.org/ which he says also links straight to VAERS and is easier to use. I haven’t tried it yet.
It isn’t that I don’t trust the specific numbers for “deaths”, “hospitalizations” and specific things like “anaphylaxis” . Those should be accurate.
When I stated I wasn’t certain about 30 percent even on those “specific” that is an educated guess. And it doesn’t mean they aren’t deaths or vaccine injuries, it simply means, mostly due either to lack of details or timing of jab vs injury, that I could see where the skeptics are coming from. Keep in mind this has been true for decades so when we compare :
The highest Vaccine death total in VAERS in one year prior to 2021 was 193 deaths. We had over 21000 deaths from covid19 vacs as of the anniversary date of EUA authorized Covid19 vaccines. That is comparing apples to apples.
at MOST it appears that only 1 in 10 injuries are reported. Based on statistical evidence both Steve Kirsch and Jessica Rose say it’s much much worse. Their conservative underreporting figure was 41 and 30 respectively.
Also keep in mind that there are supposedly “Fr” (foreign) reports. About half are marked foreign. So if you want USA data only you have to key in on it.
The figure I DO question is the TOTAL of all events (I think that’s almost 1.5 million now) and the one that is “minor” adverse events. I would estimate half are simply vaccine manufacturer and pharmacy and vaccine end use providers required reporting when a vaccine is administered incorrectly. For example, an expired lot used. There are many of those. Almost all said “no adverse event noted”. But they are apparently, by law, required to report. Or Moderna booster used when Pfizer was the original jab.
Sorry for the boring details.
Dr Jessica Rose’s substack is by far one of the best (because she’s just simply awesome, I think some of the male scientists were fan clubbing her too 😀) . She’s a rock star. She often pulls out really specific info that is helpful. Anyone who “fact checks” her is in for a surprise. She’s accurate. They can ignore her but not her figures.
all of the adverse effects (serious or not) are useful because they can match up with the clinical trial stats and they can be correlated with each other and with non-effect notes like the ones you mentioned (e.g. batch number). they also indicate thoroughness in the report - when someone has a stroke later it could match up with the type of headache or temporary vision issues they reported, perhaps).
I agree But. Not if the VAERS report was just a manufacturer or pharmacy (I.e. the actual jabber) being required by law to report an adverse event of “expired lot; no adverse event noted”. Those should be excluded. There are quite a few of them in the bigger category. Enough that I’d say you almost have to seriously exclude 30 percent. Maybe even more.
why exclude them? isnt it important to know how many expired shots were administered? they have been changing the expiry times, without scientific debate. they havent been diligent about supply chain integrity. it is another data point to be collected.
This is the sad story of my close friend Stuart who was a very healthy 72 year old working as a part time security guard at a private residence in Malibu where he was required to get fully vaccinated with the Covid shots. Last summer I got a call from him shortly after he was stricken with a prion (Mad Cow) condition - Jacob Creutzfeld Disease. He was losing his ability to think straight and two weeks later he was dead. In the forty years I knew him, the worst sickness I can recall him having was a head cold. The doctors including the neurologist were completely perplexed at how someone in such good condition could become afflicted by something so rare and debilitating. Neither they nor his family made any connection with the shots. I remember hearing Dr Tenpenney as well as scientist Stephanie Senoff say that prion was a concern if and when the spike protein penetrates the blood/brain barrier so I did some research and learned that there were several other cases reported on VAERS. When I mentioned it to Stuart’s brother he and his wife (both vaccinated themselves) replied that because the Pfizer shot had been fully approved by the FDA (not really, but that was what the news reported) it couldn’t be that. Nonetheless I sent them a couple of articles about the risks and information about VAERS but they nor the doctor ever did anything about. When you consider how many other similar occurrences there were, it’s not hard to see how the study done on VAERS at Harvard would figure such a low level of underreported cases. The 23 thousand total deaths now shown could easily be between 100,000 and a million. That’s a quiet genocide.
Exactly and horribly as predicted by many good scientists. I am on the edge of schizo after more than a year of seeing this coming, and even my family doubting me about it still, them jabbed, me not.
I know, it is horrible seeing it come to fruition. People I know went and got the jab anyway, many because their kids came to them all heartful about wanting their parents "protected." O.M.G. Lost 3 good healthy friends within 24 and 30 hours of the jab.
I am pdx too, would love to find a like minded soul if you ever want to have a coffee...email me at jacquelynsauriol@pm.me....I am in nopo but can travel about...
all the day long, my name all one word @ pm.me....ps i love protonmail just switched 3 weeks ago or so, its cleaner visually and a bit faster....so cold ya?
One added point, please confirm or clarify. When the brother and wife replied that the Pfizer shot had been fully approved, isn't it true that 'approved' version is NOT being used in the USA? This is what I thought.
Correct. It is nearly impossible to find Comintary in the wild to be injected with. This would be the version where insurance companies would be held responsible if you die from it and you'd be able to potentially sue the person injecting you if say they failed to asperate and you suffered side effects as a direct result.
I’m starting to have similar wishes. But I’d like to see a sentence where they would be painfully forced to see all day every day the suffering they’ve caused.
Sociopaths, Psychopaths and narcissists don't care about causing pain, suffering, or death. The sociopaths would especially enjoy watching the suffering. They don't deserve that joy.
So glad I was never sociopathic. Maybe they don’t care about what others feel but they are capable of feeling pain. A quick execution seems like an easy way out.
I work hard at leaving judgment and justice to the Creator, but sometimes I think awful things like "How about we give the 'roots of the evil' people their two good shots of Moderna (highest level of mRNA among the shots) and then a booster (same high dose) every three months, and no medical care or access to drugs or nutritional supplements?" And of course their shots would have to include the full complement of bizarro stuff some of the shots contain -- you know, the graphene oxide and hydroxide, the wiggly little transfection organisms, the nano-whatevers. Or maybe -- to make these people serve a useful purpose in the end -- we just use them all as experimental subjects to study the adverse effects of the shots in great detail, and to test possible treatments?
Thanks for that. There’s always a lesson to be had. When we stop caring, we begin to lose our humanity. And this is the only thing that can save us from the dystopian globalist nightmare.
You said it. Caring. Humanity was at a soul crushing point when they brought the Plandemic upon us. They knew it was NOW or never. We, yes we, created a CARELESS society: we need to hire people to take CARE of: our babies,toddlers, youth. Our parents, grandparents. Our homes, gardens, cars, pets….basically everything. So who is left to care when it’s been stricken from our lives….da Fuckin Government….🐑🐑🐑
Yep. That’s what they did at my sons college. He still has not got the booster but was just threatened with not being allowed to register in fall if his vaccine card not up to date! This is seriously making me ill every day. I just can’t believe we are forcing healthy young smart kids to take these shots and they are all complying. My son survived an AVM and brain surgery and I fear he will die from this booster and I can’t get anyone to listen to me! Him most of all! God help us all!
Pull him out. A year away from college never hurt anyone, and often it helps. If he wants he can live in the same town, get a job, still be with friends. Don't pay the tuition, tell him he can go back in a year, buy time. Why risk death?
I'm so sorry. I feel the same way about what we are doing to young people. I keep writing to politicians but it seems so pointless. People are brainwashed. God bless Jessica and others for trying to break through.
Making bad decisions and suffering the consequences is part of growing up. If you've shown him all the data and he still wants to enter the Clottery then it's his stupid mistake. Chances are good that he's 90+% likely to be fine if he doesn't get a hot lot. Kids do lots of stupid things unfortunately.
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I started looking at the VAERs data last March while I was waiting patiently for my turn to get the shot. Even at that time it was eye opening. The AES were running 50 to 100 times as much as the previous years Flu shots AES. I assumed the shots would be cancelled because it was so bad. When I told my friends about all the deaths in VAERs they said it was evil Trumpers entering loads of deaths in to make it look bad, and that they would get removed from the system as false. So to test this I took an extract of the domestic only death cases in early June (4436 deaths). By the end of September this had risen to 6981 deaths and comparing this to my early June extract saw that only 37 death cases were removed. Needless to say I never took the shot because it didnt look safe, and now it doesn’t even look effective. I haven’t had Covid and not even been sick so never been tested. I’ve learned a lot about vitamin D and other supplements though!
As an injured mom of a twice ( now 4 with the recent poison) injured autistic son , none of which were reported then or now , it might be increased awareness by patients.
The medical establishment has a vested interest in NOT reporting.
Me too! My son is autistic and got ITP after flu shot-but it came on so gradually that I didn’t realize that one at the time (platelets <4000 for over a month before he was given IVIG which fixed it) and then he got hives for 3 weeks after second MMR. I should have stopped the shots sooner clearly but it took that long to undo the brainwashing that vaccines are safe and effective and could never have anything to do with his autism. My 3rd has had a few vaccines spaced out and far off schedule but honestly I wish I just skipped them. I was afraid of being labeled an “anti-vaxxer “ a label I have truly earned now.
Like one of those dot pictures that has an image embedded, you can't unsee the poison path once you understand....the last 50 years of horribly misguided injections. We all suffer if we are vaccinated. My heart is with you.
Yes it's hard to continue speaking out , however my only motivation is to ensure INFORMED CONSENT and perhaps spare even ONE family the harm I experienced.
Also , it takes great courage to face that you may have harmed your own child .
Or , in the case of medical folk , someone ELSE'S.
Yes. My crime was trusting. Theirs was worse - deliberately ignoring/obfuscating/lying about the truth. I will never forgive myself for what I chose but now I know better and my children are one of the 30% not injected at their school.
I wonder if an embalmer could submit a VAERS report when observing and removing leg long clots from a known injected body. Could be an important VAERS signal.
I think at least some embalmers are enjoying all the extra business, when only a few speak up. Or they are too busy to speak, but I smell a rat there too, TNI reach is very deep.
I don’t doubt that this is happening. I might have vaccine (not covid) induced arthritis myself. What would surprise me is if something that happened this much later would get a VAERS report when plenty of doctors aren’t even reporting this as obvious as myocarditis.
Hi, Jessica. I'm thrilled you are applying your amazing skills to this absolutely crucial issue. Thank you! Another aspect of this may be that the 5G grid was turned on January 19th. I have seen other independent scientists talking about how the shot has capabilities of interacting with microwave transmissions. Also, independent scientists who published the Bioinitiative Report way back in 2012 demonstrated how exposure to cell phone spectrum microwaves almost immediately affects the blood by clumping red blood cells together, damaging the walls of blood cells, etc. Fortunately, when the stimulus (cell phone radiation) was removed, the blood went back to normal (except for cells that were actually destroyed, of course). I know this isn't your bailiwick, but it might be a factor that is worth considering.
You make an important point. I've seen slides of red blood cells clumped up after 5G exposure that looked exactly like the vaccine clumping of both red blood cells and platelets. You can't believe how horrible it is until you see them. 5G by the way, is not to 4G as 4G was to 3G, but is like a thousand times worse. 5G is qualitatively different from 4G.
Yes, apparently one of the big differences is the form of the transmission. It is pulsed (unlike with previous generations). To maintain health, the body's electrical system tries to harmonize with or accustom itself to the frequencies around it (quite a job already). Pulsed energy makes this much more difficult, if not impossible. The Invisible Rainbow by Arthur Firstenberg is an excellent source of information on this, because he has exhaustively catalogued the damaging effects of synthetic electrical fields from the invention of electricity to present day.
Our World in Data is funded by Gates et al; I'd not trust them. Note the OWiD funding sources on their site. Can that data be forensically checked? On the other hand, if they were doing some funny business, the already negative correlation seen here would just be more negative. Would be good to put up against the VAERS data corrected for the URF, which we know would be more realistic. All these graphs should be placed on large billboards around the world. A picture is worth a thousand words and we know the words are not getting traction. Would like to know if the alt-Narrative is real - i.e. what percent of total people know about it? We who are aware of such things could be inside a very small box.
Honestly. Many of the mandates and deadlines here in CA were for January and February. So I think the boosters very well could be causing the spikes. My daughter was forced to get a booster just last month. She does not seem right. Complaining of headaches and jaw pain. I can’t even imply it’s the booster or she will lose it on me. She so firmly believes in these vaccines it makes me sick.
But. The later the diagnosis, the more difficult to make an association with the injection. Or perhaps people are realizing that that new thing they have is happening since they were stabbed…
But if you learn that you have a tumor in 2023, you cannot relate it to the injection. No one would think that. Mostly if you have been instructed to think “safe and effective”.
Yes. My family member was diagnosed with a large colon tumor late last year. You can't prove this was linked to the jab. I believe it was. A friend's daughter in her 30s with Krohns suddenly developed colon cancer and died around the same time. Heartbreaking.
One of my cleaning clients is in a home 6 months after the jab, before that she was holding her own just fine, exercising...then, multiple falls and cancer.
Quite sudden if you ask me. No one in the circle was willing to say it but me.
This is not at all surprising. I warned a year ago, based on previous data re mRNA vaccine use in animal studies that adverse events would likely be protracted.
Also, subclinical myocarditis, the bulk of the iceberg, is the most likely cause of post-vaccine ongoing fatigue, specifically loss of functioning cardiomyocytes and replacement by fibrotic tissue. I explain here:
It took me 6 months to get diagnosed with myopericarditis and still not entered in vaers. I am thinking of doing it myself almost a year later. So there's that.
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So sorry to hear that the medical professionals surrounding you are numbed to the extent that they have forgotten the way how to be human and treat others the way they are supposed to do.
Sending my sincere hugs trough space from a deplorable free thinking outcast that left the not so more professional workspace.
And please report to VAERS, yes it is a statistic in there but you are real, you are a humankind that needs to be recognised for the wrongdoing that was done to you trough false pretences.
Just getting the word out is just as important to me...the VAERS thing is pretty tricky i hear because you are also on a timer essentially, and the pages reset if you dont get done soon enough....of course they made it as difficult as possible. Let someone familiar do it would be my vote....
Yes, it’s brutal. It’s worse than income taxes.
It’s not THAT bad!!! 😂😂 I’ve filled out several. And my taxes are always done last minute even tho I usually get $$ back I hate it that much !
How is it that you have filled out several reports?
I’m a pharmacist with immunization privileges and certification. I’ve filled out one for a flu shot reaction and one for a Covid shot reaction and helped a fellow pharmacist with VAERS as well. All in a days work. I do not do any immunizations any more at this time and will likely allow my certification to lapse as I have lost all belief in the benefits of them in the last two years. And I would never give a Covid shot.
Do it. We need an organization to facilitate VAERS reporting. The CDC won’t help as every case is evidence of its negligence.
Thank you!
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I am going to be honest here. I am very afraid of having my care compromised by making them deal with this. There are 4 doctors involved- immunologist, cardiologist, pots clinic np, and gp. Getting care for my complicated case is very difficult. I have reported the multiple adverse reactions to Moderna and to my local health department who took the info from me. Thank you for your well wishes.
It breaks my heart to hear what they are doing to you. And that you are afraid that your care will be taken away. As a health professional I cannot stress enough how absolutely monstrous this is, all and everyone that does not stand up to this evil but still participate in order to get a pay check does not ring well in my head.
Thank you for the kind words. It's really about them being understaffed and overworked, but I know if I was in their position I would report for the sake of everyone.
The understaffing and overworked professionals are planned. And it should not be an excuse as it actually is a duty to report. And you of all should never excuse them. You are on the receiving end of care and should be priority number one, next time it can be themselves that are suffering. As a person you can take a stand against your employer to make change.
It only takes the word NO.
I doubt Moderna will file a VAERS report for you.
Hi there, Yes I know your name. Frank GL I think blocked me from his wall. Or he just vanished.
Nice to see you here. Even though the circumstances are dire for the humankind.
Your fear of compromised care is your "intuition" alerting you that the health care professionals you are currently relying upon are not worthy.
You deserve better. ❤
I hope a time will come when you can report to VAERS without being concerned about your care being compromised. I'm glad you've reported to Moderna (I think they are required to report your case to VAERS, BTW) and to your local health department. You could also report to ICAN at https://www.icandecide.org/report-a-vaccine-injury/.
I'm sympathetic re: your situation. It looks like I have heart damage from spike protein transmitted by my husband, who got the Pfizer vaccine without telling me because he knew I'd object. I saw a doctor the first day I had symptoms, but my case was fumbled between doc, clinic and PA, and ECG lab and it was three months later that I found out -- because I finally went straight to the ECG lab and asked for a copy of my test results -- that my ECG showed abnormalities and damage. It's a long story with no happy ending yet...
Are you aware that there are many doctors working specifically on healing COVID vaccine injuries? I can give you some resources to check out if you'd like, just let me know. (This would be as a complement to the care you're getting now, not as a substitute.) Good luck to you! I hope you're able to fully recover!
I am obsessed with gathering information on all this and happy to check out your sources if you would like to share. Thank you. The comment regarding the shut down of Ace 2 receptors somewhere on here is frightening but seems right. I wonder if clearing the spike will right that problem or if permanent damage is done. And will we ever clear the spike naturally? Will all the rna disintegrate naturally? Will my immune system recover? I am 10 months out and still compromised as I recover another shingles outbreak. I have more questions than answers.
JJE, on one of Steve Kirsch's substack pieces, I wrote two comments (one short, one very long) with information about injury from the COVID-19 vaccines and resources for further information and for treatment. My two comments have now been added to the "Real Covid Research" website, which is a compilation of information primarily from doctors, researchers, etc. This website will be a good resource for you (perhaps you've already discovered it?).
https://realcovidresearch.blogspot.com/2021/12/can-you-detox-from-covid-vaccine.html
To find the information from me, scroll all the way down the big center column; right now my comments are the very last things. When you see a headline "A new piece by Geert Vanden Bossche", you're almost there.
The COVID-19 vaccines have a variety of injurious ingredients and mechanisms of harm, and I think that for best results all of these things should be considered in treatment plans. Most of the resources I've seen are focused on one or a few areas of trouble and treatment; they go into detail and are often technical. My goal was to give people an overview, and just enough information to orient them about each "category" of trouble and treatment.
From Dr. Ariyana Love's detox protocol and the World Council for Health article, you can collect the names of many doctors who are treating COVID vaccine injuries. Some of the doctors effectively treating COVID-19, including "long haul" COVID, are also treating vaccine injuries. One example is Dr. Bruce Patterson, who started out treating long haulers but has discovered that his treatment protocol also helps people who've been injured by a COVID vaccine.
I hope this is helpful to you! Please feel free to PM me on Facebook if you have questions after reading my materials or want to discuss anything further.
P.S. Shingles -- When I had shingles years ago, 400 IU of dry form Vitamin E (d-alpha tocopherols) cleared the problem rapidly. I had to continue for a year before I could taper off without a recurrence.
Thank you!
Have you seen this:
Here is a protocol purported to help clean out the vax effects. I know little about it:
https://twitter.com/clif_high/status/1425518700942172165/photo/1
Thanks for posting this! The first 6 things listed in this protocol are things I've read about for COVID vaccine injuries. I think most doctors treating COVID vaccine injuries would agree these things would be good.
I haven't heard about Chaga tea before; so I have no information or opinion on that.
About the zinc and copper -- Best to avoid zinc picolinate (I think Dr. Zelenko recommends zinc sulfate). Also, the kind of copper used in most supplements is metallic and not bioavailable; so it ends up being just another toxic thing your body has to cope with. Best to get your copper from grass-fed beef liver, or the bioavailable copper supplement available from the MitoSynergy company. (I'm sorry, but I've read that the liver must be eaten raw. Good advice: Cut it into very small bites, small enough to swallow whole, and mix it into a flavorful, unsweetened, organic applesauce...)
Thank you
I am sorry you are dealing with this too. :-(
Could I please get the resources you referred to (doctors treating jab injuries)? My bff suffered an injury and doesn’t know where to turn.
I'm sorry your bff has been injured! Please scroll up and look for my response to JJE's request for information on resources...
Besides the resources listed there, your friend could report her injury to ICAN; sometimes they can help people find medical care.
https://www.icandecide.org/report-a-vaccine-injury/
Thank you!
Yep. That is exactly what my daughter said when I asked her if she ever looked on VAers. . Her reply Immediately was anyone can report on there! I was like.... so 1,000,000 people had nothing better to do than file a phony report to make vaccines look bad????? Logic. Not!!
It's a daunting task. I looked at the first few pages. People are not false reporting. I guarantee it.
VAERS heavily vets all reports. In fact they're so diligent about it that they mistakenly take away many legit reports. I asked them about this in June of 2021 and they gave me some lame excuses -
https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/death-by-covid-vaccine-update-9?utm_source=url
https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/death-by-covid-vaccine-update-10?utm_source=url
Dr. Zelenko doesn't think that it's a mistake. Some valid reports just seem to disappear, or never get registered. I don't trust them either.
My husband's a doctor. He's had 5 patients that may have had adverse reactions. He said it was so complicated to report to VAERS that he's only had time to do one patient. He'll have to go in on the weekend and do it on his own time if he wants to report all five incidents.
They don't want to know.
Jesus conquered death.
The 1,000,000 non serious ar’s is a bit overstating. No, don’t nobody go all “she’s a shill” on me. Most of y’all know I can’t stand the narrative. BUT. Be careful citing the bigger numbers. VAERS DOES include a huge amount of reports like “wrong vial used, Moderna instead of Pfizer, no adverse reaction noted” or “expired, no adverse reaction noted”.
I find it better to do a search of specific adverse reactions. The 120,000 hospitalization reports for example Or better, read the death reports. While chilling, almost all of them are hard to ignore. Only about 30 percent could be questioned. Ever those probably were vax injuries but someone could find s reason to question. That’s just my take. The other 70 percent roughly are VERY VERY hard to question (death almost immediately following vax or in healthy young individuals without preexisting disease).
We have over a million in the UK, so yours are going to be a damn sight higher than ours.
You mean a million total? Or a million serious events.
2,000 deaths and just under 1.5 million reported adverse reactions.
https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports.
Same deal as Vaers though. Between 1 and 10% of adverse reactions are reported.
I was just throwing a number out there. Honestly I don’t know how many reports were filed. Whether they be minor events or deaths. I’ve been kind of following the death totals. I find VAers very hard to maneuver so I’m glad people like Jessica do it and then report on it. I know that since the beg of vaccines being recorded on VAers this one has had the most side effects. When people say oh anyone could go on and report those. Well I suppose it’s true but it makes no sense to me that people would just go on there to report just to make the vaccines look bad. Esp the number of reports filed! Anyways. Point well taken. Does anyone know the number of reports filed? Just curious. I thought I did see something on that. If you have the exact number of events I could use that to correctly state how many have been filed. Thanks.
Go to OpenVAERS.com and look at the home page for figures that compare COVID stats to all-vaccines (including COVID) stats since 1990. Also look at the Red Box page, which gives stats for COVID-19 vaccines for a variety of adverse events including deaths, hospitalizations, urgent/ER care, and specific conditions like myocarditis, Bell's Palsy, etc. Look for the toggle that switched between "all reports" and "U.S./unknown reports." But be aware that the evidence is that VAERS personnel have been re-coding many "serious" reports from U.S. to FR (Foreign Report) since about June 2021. This is just one of their tricks to lower the U.S. report numbers and ugly statistics.
In the past, I've looked at EudraVigilance (EU) stats as a quick "check" on the U.S. VAERS system. A bit like comparing apples to oranges, though, because of the different ways of reporting summary results. About once a month, Vaccine Impact publishes a summary report based on EudraVigilance statistics. Here's the latest:
https://vaccineimpact.com/2022/40000-deaths-following-covid-shots-in-european-database-as-life-insurance-death-claims-skyrocket/
Deb and Kayla, I agree with Kayla.
Deb: Kayla is right you can use the red box summaries on OpenVaers.com. Steve Kirsch substack also noted an NVIC related search engine (National Vaccine Information Center, which, if you don’t know about it has been fighting for informed consent for decades): http://www.medalerts.org/ which he says also links straight to VAERS and is easier to use. I haven’t tried it yet.
It isn’t that I don’t trust the specific numbers for “deaths”, “hospitalizations” and specific things like “anaphylaxis” . Those should be accurate.
When I stated I wasn’t certain about 30 percent even on those “specific” that is an educated guess. And it doesn’t mean they aren’t deaths or vaccine injuries, it simply means, mostly due either to lack of details or timing of jab vs injury, that I could see where the skeptics are coming from. Keep in mind this has been true for decades so when we compare :
The highest Vaccine death total in VAERS in one year prior to 2021 was 193 deaths. We had over 21000 deaths from covid19 vacs as of the anniversary date of EUA authorized Covid19 vaccines. That is comparing apples to apples.
at MOST it appears that only 1 in 10 injuries are reported. Based on statistical evidence both Steve Kirsch and Jessica Rose say it’s much much worse. Their conservative underreporting figure was 41 and 30 respectively.
Also keep in mind that there are supposedly “Fr” (foreign) reports. About half are marked foreign. So if you want USA data only you have to key in on it.
The figure I DO question is the TOTAL of all events (I think that’s almost 1.5 million now) and the one that is “minor” adverse events. I would estimate half are simply vaccine manufacturer and pharmacy and vaccine end use providers required reporting when a vaccine is administered incorrectly. For example, an expired lot used. There are many of those. Almost all said “no adverse event noted”. But they are apparently, by law, required to report. Or Moderna booster used when Pfizer was the original jab.
Sorry for the boring details.
Dr Jessica Rose’s substack is by far one of the best (because she’s just simply awesome, I think some of the male scientists were fan clubbing her too 😀) . She’s a rock star. She often pulls out really specific info that is helpful. Anyone who “fact checks” her is in for a surprise. She’s accurate. They can ignore her but not her figures.
Kayla, do we have any hard evidence on the “FR” that you mentioned (ie CDC changing from USA to FR location)?
all of the adverse effects (serious or not) are useful because they can match up with the clinical trial stats and they can be correlated with each other and with non-effect notes like the ones you mentioned (e.g. batch number). they also indicate thoroughness in the report - when someone has a stroke later it could match up with the type of headache or temporary vision issues they reported, perhaps).
I agree But. Not if the VAERS report was just a manufacturer or pharmacy (I.e. the actual jabber) being required by law to report an adverse event of “expired lot; no adverse event noted”. Those should be excluded. There are quite a few of them in the bigger category. Enough that I’d say you almost have to seriously exclude 30 percent. Maybe even more.
why exclude them? isnt it important to know how many expired shots were administered? they have been changing the expiry times, without scientific debate. they havent been diligent about supply chain integrity. it is another data point to be collected.
Just means that she is highly threatened by the reality that she has a toxic time bomb patiently waiting to strike...inside her.
She is externalizing this terror onto you.
Lunatic / loony / lost / and (sadly) laughable Lefties
This is the sad story of my close friend Stuart who was a very healthy 72 year old working as a part time security guard at a private residence in Malibu where he was required to get fully vaccinated with the Covid shots. Last summer I got a call from him shortly after he was stricken with a prion (Mad Cow) condition - Jacob Creutzfeld Disease. He was losing his ability to think straight and two weeks later he was dead. In the forty years I knew him, the worst sickness I can recall him having was a head cold. The doctors including the neurologist were completely perplexed at how someone in such good condition could become afflicted by something so rare and debilitating. Neither they nor his family made any connection with the shots. I remember hearing Dr Tenpenney as well as scientist Stephanie Senoff say that prion was a concern if and when the spike protein penetrates the blood/brain barrier so I did some research and learned that there were several other cases reported on VAERS. When I mentioned it to Stuart’s brother he and his wife (both vaccinated themselves) replied that because the Pfizer shot had been fully approved by the FDA (not really, but that was what the news reported) it couldn’t be that. Nonetheless I sent them a couple of articles about the risks and information about VAERS but they nor the doctor ever did anything about. When you consider how many other similar occurrences there were, it’s not hard to see how the study done on VAERS at Harvard would figure such a low level of underreported cases. The 23 thousand total deaths now shown could easily be between 100,000 and a million. That’s a quiet genocide.
yes :(
Exactly and horribly as predicted by many good scientists. I am on the edge of schizo after more than a year of seeing this coming, and even my family doubting me about it still, them jabbed, me not.
I know, it is horrible seeing it come to fruition. People I know went and got the jab anyway, many because their kids came to them all heartful about wanting their parents "protected." O.M.G. Lost 3 good healthy friends within 24 and 30 hours of the jab.
Stay strong. You are on the right side of this.
Stay strong, breath deep, go outside and admire the sunshine and fresh air. We are still human, we are still here, we will survive..
I am pdx too, would love to find a like minded soul if you ever want to have a coffee...email me at jacquelynsauriol@pm.me....I am in nopo but can travel about...
I'm just across the border from pdx in WA. One of only 2 unvaxxed among my relatives. May I email you?
all the day long, my name all one word @ pm.me....ps i love protonmail just switched 3 weeks ago or so, its cleaner visually and a bit faster....so cold ya?
One added point, please confirm or clarify. When the brother and wife replied that the Pfizer shot had been fully approved, isn't it true that 'approved' version is NOT being used in the USA? This is what I thought.
Correct. It is nearly impossible to find Comintary in the wild to be injected with. This would be the version where insurance companies would be held responsible if you die from it and you'd be able to potentially sue the person injecting you if say they failed to asperate and you suffered side effects as a direct result.
Correct, yes.
You can only show them the truth. You cannot make them see it, or believe it.
Whatever happens after that point is entirely up to them.
The government and media lies about the Pfizertoxin being FDA approved, should see the gallows being run at maximum capacity for the next 12 months.
Rid the world of evil people and feed the plants at the same time. so win win then.
I’m starting to have similar wishes. But I’d like to see a sentence where they would be painfully forced to see all day every day the suffering they’ve caused.
Sociopaths, Psychopaths and narcissists don't care about causing pain, suffering, or death. The sociopaths would especially enjoy watching the suffering. They don't deserve that joy.
So glad I was never sociopathic. Maybe they don’t care about what others feel but they are capable of feeling pain. A quick execution seems like an easy way out.
Not quick. Never quick. They need to suffer to understand what they have done.
I work hard at leaving judgment and justice to the Creator, but sometimes I think awful things like "How about we give the 'roots of the evil' people their two good shots of Moderna (highest level of mRNA among the shots) and then a booster (same high dose) every three months, and no medical care or access to drugs or nutritional supplements?" And of course their shots would have to include the full complement of bizarro stuff some of the shots contain -- you know, the graphene oxide and hydroxide, the wiggly little transfection organisms, the nano-whatevers. Or maybe -- to make these people serve a useful purpose in the end -- we just use them all as experimental subjects to study the adverse effects of the shots in great detail, and to test possible treatments?
That’s harsh to the plants.
This is so much more than sad. Your close friend Stuart had a wonderful and great person in his life. The essentiality of caring is way underrated.
Thanks for that. There’s always a lesson to be had. When we stop caring, we begin to lose our humanity. And this is the only thing that can save us from the dystopian globalist nightmare.
You said it. Caring. Humanity was at a soul crushing point when they brought the Plandemic upon us. They knew it was NOW or never. We, yes we, created a CARELESS society: we need to hire people to take CARE of: our babies,toddlers, youth. Our parents, grandparents. Our homes, gardens, cars, pets….basically everything. So who is left to care when it’s been stricken from our lives….da Fuckin Government….🐑🐑🐑
“A Quiet Genocide” what a comment.
oh dear goc
I wonder if there is any age data on the recent increase. All colleges and private schools started pushing/requiring boosters around this time.
interesting...
look at the vaers data by county....
Yep. That’s what they did at my sons college. He still has not got the booster but was just threatened with not being allowed to register in fall if his vaccine card not up to date! This is seriously making me ill every day. I just can’t believe we are forcing healthy young smart kids to take these shots and they are all complying. My son survived an AVM and brain surgery and I fear he will die from this booster and I can’t get anyone to listen to me! Him most of all! God help us all!
I wouldn't pay his tuition. He'll thank you one day.
Pull him out. A year away from college never hurt anyone, and often it helps. If he wants he can live in the same town, get a job, still be with friends. Don't pay the tuition, tell him he can go back in a year, buy time. Why risk death?
I'm so sorry. I feel the same way about what we are doing to young people. I keep writing to politicians but it seems so pointless. People are brainwashed. God bless Jessica and others for trying to break through.
Oh my God. I don’t know what I’d do!!! I am praying he gets clarity.🙏❤️
Making bad decisions and suffering the consequences is part of growing up. If you've shown him all the data and he still wants to enter the Clottery then it's his stupid mistake. Chances are good that he's 90+% likely to be fine if he doesn't get a hot lot. Kids do lots of stupid things unfortunately.
I have noticed there's alot of what I would term "Administrative Events" rather than "Adverse Events" eg: wrong dose/diluent, age issues etc.
These are not what I would call real events and obviously affect U18s much more so than adults.
From my d/b, I see that for U18s in 2022 there are ~2800 Admin/Errors compared to ~2200 Adverse/Events, so ~44% are "real"
By comparison, for age 18-29 in 2022 there are 871 Admin/Errors compared to 3490 Adverse/Events, so ~80% are "real"
I hope that those counting A/E's - eg howbad.info are taking this into account, but maybe not!
Just as planned:
mRNA "Vaccines" Are Gene Therapy. May cause Undesirable Side Effects That Could Delay Or Prevent Their Regulatory Approval According To BioNTech SEC Filing
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/mrna-vaccines-are-gene-therapy-may
Pfizer Documents Show FDA Knew of Death Risk
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/dr-michael-yeadon-this-must-stop
The Truth About Safety of mRNA Vaccines Found in The European Medicines Agency's Document Titled "Comirnaty (COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine) Risk Management Plan"
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-safety-of-mrna-vaccines
I started looking at the VAERs data last March while I was waiting patiently for my turn to get the shot. Even at that time it was eye opening. The AES were running 50 to 100 times as much as the previous years Flu shots AES. I assumed the shots would be cancelled because it was so bad. When I told my friends about all the deaths in VAERs they said it was evil Trumpers entering loads of deaths in to make it look bad, and that they would get removed from the system as false. So to test this I took an extract of the domestic only death cases in early June (4436 deaths). By the end of September this had risen to 6981 deaths and comparing this to my early June extract saw that only 37 death cases were removed. Needless to say I never took the shot because it didnt look safe, and now it doesn’t even look effective. I haven’t had Covid and not even been sick so never been tested. I’ve learned a lot about vitamin D and other supplements though!
Are these the same dolts who were afraid of the "Trump vaccine" as articulated by Kamala Harris?
Do they know it's the same toxic jab?
Remind them that they now have the Trump Vaccine courtesy Operation Warp Speed funneling through their tissues, replicating that Trump Spike Protein.
LOL> We are not a serious, thoughtful people.
I wish I had known to look at vaers!
As an injured mom of a twice ( now 4 with the recent poison) injured autistic son , none of which were reported then or now , it might be increased awareness by patients.
The medical establishment has a vested interest in NOT reporting.
you're right
Me too! My son is autistic and got ITP after flu shot-but it came on so gradually that I didn’t realize that one at the time (platelets <4000 for over a month before he was given IVIG which fixed it) and then he got hives for 3 weeks after second MMR. I should have stopped the shots sooner clearly but it took that long to undo the brainwashing that vaccines are safe and effective and could never have anything to do with his autism. My 3rd has had a few vaccines spaced out and far off schedule but honestly I wish I just skipped them. I was afraid of being labeled an “anti-vaxxer “ a label I have truly earned now.
Like one of those dot pictures that has an image embedded, you can't unsee the poison path once you understand....the last 50 years of horribly misguided injections. We all suffer if we are vaccinated. My heart is with you.
Yes it's hard to continue speaking out , however my only motivation is to ensure INFORMED CONSENT and perhaps spare even ONE family the harm I experienced.
Also , it takes great courage to face that you may have harmed your own child .
Or , in the case of medical folk , someone ELSE'S.
Yes. My crime was trusting. Theirs was worse - deliberately ignoring/obfuscating/lying about the truth. I will never forgive myself for what I chose but now I know better and my children are one of the 30% not injected at their school.
I too trusted.
This is a dine and dash on our social security, mafia style.
I wonder if an embalmer could submit a VAERS report when observing and removing leg long clots from a known injected body. Could be an important VAERS signal.
I think at least some embalmers are enjoying all the extra business, when only a few speak up. Or they are too busy to speak, but I smell a rat there too, TNI reach is very deep.
I don’t doubt that this is happening. I might have vaccine (not covid) induced arthritis myself. What would surprise me is if something that happened this much later would get a VAERS report when plenty of doctors aren’t even reporting this as obvious as myocarditis.
Both can cause inflammation but if you never had c19 then it’s the jab.
Hi, Jessica. I'm thrilled you are applying your amazing skills to this absolutely crucial issue. Thank you! Another aspect of this may be that the 5G grid was turned on January 19th. I have seen other independent scientists talking about how the shot has capabilities of interacting with microwave transmissions. Also, independent scientists who published the Bioinitiative Report way back in 2012 demonstrated how exposure to cell phone spectrum microwaves almost immediately affects the blood by clumping red blood cells together, damaging the walls of blood cells, etc. Fortunately, when the stimulus (cell phone radiation) was removed, the blood went back to normal (except for cells that were actually destroyed, of course). I know this isn't your bailiwick, but it might be a factor that is worth considering.
You make an important point. I've seen slides of red blood cells clumped up after 5G exposure that looked exactly like the vaccine clumping of both red blood cells and platelets. You can't believe how horrible it is until you see them. 5G by the way, is not to 4G as 4G was to 3G, but is like a thousand times worse. 5G is qualitatively different from 4G.
Yes, apparently one of the big differences is the form of the transmission. It is pulsed (unlike with previous generations). To maintain health, the body's electrical system tries to harmonize with or accustom itself to the frequencies around it (quite a job already). Pulsed energy makes this much more difficult, if not impossible. The Invisible Rainbow by Arthur Firstenberg is an excellent source of information on this, because he has exhaustively catalogued the damaging effects of synthetic electrical fields from the invention of electricity to present day.
Also Martin Paul and voltage-gated calcium channels.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3yQgr5vy4oyb/
There will be an explosion of complications in those who survived the acute death scenario. VAIDS is one.
Our World in Data is funded by Gates et al; I'd not trust them. Note the OWiD funding sources on their site. Can that data be forensically checked? On the other hand, if they were doing some funny business, the already negative correlation seen here would just be more negative. Would be good to put up against the VAERS data corrected for the URF, which we know would be more realistic. All these graphs should be placed on large billboards around the world. A picture is worth a thousand words and we know the words are not getting traction. Would like to know if the alt-Narrative is real - i.e. what percent of total people know about it? We who are aware of such things could be inside a very small box.
oh my f-ing jaybus. you're right!!!
Who know what they have in mind
https://robdubya.substack.com/p/it-was-the-germs-wot-done-it-sir?utm_source=url
VAERS is intentionally broken, this 8 minute video explains it all: https://twitter.com/Storiesofinjury/status/1482983517789294592?s=20&t=kVKNGy5sgtOY2Qw22NU7YQ
Honestly. Many of the mandates and deadlines here in CA were for January and February. So I think the boosters very well could be causing the spikes. My daughter was forced to get a booster just last month. She does not seem right. Complaining of headaches and jaw pain. I can’t even imply it’s the booster or she will lose it on me. She so firmly believes in these vaccines it makes me sick.
It may be time to detach with love from your kids.
Not be estranged, but just surrender them as victims of a truly evil campaign.
I feel your sadness, Deb.
But. The later the diagnosis, the more difficult to make an association with the injection. Or perhaps people are realizing that that new thing they have is happening since they were stabbed…
But if you learn that you have a tumor in 2023, you cannot relate it to the injection. No one would think that. Mostly if you have been instructed to think “safe and effective”.
Yes. My family member was diagnosed with a large colon tumor late last year. You can't prove this was linked to the jab. I believe it was. A friend's daughter in her 30s with Krohns suddenly developed colon cancer and died around the same time. Heartbreaking.
One of my cleaning clients is in a home 6 months after the jab, before that she was holding her own just fine, exercising...then, multiple falls and cancer.
Quite sudden if you ask me. No one in the circle was willing to say it but me.
Luc was right.
I wonder if they hastened his passing.
This is not at all surprising. I warned a year ago, based on previous data re mRNA vaccine use in animal studies that adverse events would likely be protracted.
https://www.primarydoctor.org/covidvaccine
Also, subclinical myocarditis, the bulk of the iceberg, is the most likely cause of post-vaccine ongoing fatigue, specifically loss of functioning cardiomyocytes and replacement by fibrotic tissue. I explain here:
https://colleenhuber.substack.com/p/is-it-possible-to-avoid-heart-damage?utm_source=url
Nobody should have gotten these vaccines. There is no demographic for which there was a net benefit.