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Tareq I. Albaho, PhD's avatar

I think it was Ryan Cole who postulated that some of the less harmful batches may be due to defective manufacture, such that they are almost inert, but not quite placebo as you say. And Sasha Latypova pointed out how complex the manufacturing process is, and how difficult it would have been to ensure any kind of quality control, especially given the scale and speed of production.

Do we have any idea where the different batches were made?

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Jessica, nice analysis. I sent you the number of doses data for Denmark. The number of doses was not equal between the lots, far from it. There are 2 issues. The lots in EU were split and distributed to different countries in unequal numbers of doses per each lot number. They did the same in the US across different states. The second issue is that as in the US, the "toxicity" of lots for THE SAME lot number looks very different depending on the location (country/state). The only explanation I can come up with - they are fraudulently marked as "the same" lot but produced on different production lines, possibly active ingredients coming from different locations. That's why same lot looks very different depending on the country/US state. In fact in the US, in the shipment data that Aaron Siri FOIAed it is clear that toward later time period "one lot" of product is not one production run. Today Pfizer has switched to "continuous manufacturing" so lot numbers are meaningless. This can also be the difference between the "early" and "late" lots - early were the single production runs and later ones are a mixture of many production runs from multiple locations/lines. It's not the age of the recipient. Even if there is a difference in the median - the vertical dispersion of the batches that you see on your graph - that's gigantic and not explained by age.

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